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Originally Posted by chillrob
Yeah but you're the one who used the "robbed" terminology in reference to my hypothetical example of a game with huge dealer's edge. And I think it would also be unfair to use position to make smarter bets and draws if you were the only one able to do that.
Personally I think the OP should either be playing for fun, in which case he should pick whatever game he finds the most fun regardless of edge, or if he is playing for money, try to get a more fair format going.
The game you suggested was essentially a house game at which only the dealer can win and players can only push or lose. Yes, that's basically robbery, and not poker. Any player with half a brain would simply object and refuse to play. It is a voluntary game, after all.
You're not the only one able to make smarter bets and draws, just as you are not the only one able to make intelligent game choices. You are still earning your edge via skill at poker concepts either way, and everyone is granted the same spread of opportunities by the rotation of the game. Moreover, they can also watch more seasoned players and learn from their choices, just like in every other aspect of poker.
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Originally Posted by chillrob
I don't play in home games regularly anymore, but I have in the past, and I personally (and pretty easily) convinced a group of regulars who had formerly switched with every deal to switch to a once a round change.
With holdem being the most popular game in the world it is an easy case to make. If I start choosing holdem every hand I play, even just because I enjoy the game, the guys to my left are going to figure out very quickly that they are getting screwed by paying blinds no one else is playing. The game will either very quickly disallow games with blind positional bets or everyone will pick them, leaving you playing no stud games, which many mixed game players prefer to play, but not to the extent of calling them on their deal when everyone else is playing dealer advantage games.
I agree with you on all of this. Like I said, I prefer orbit + 1 myself, as it makes for a more orderly and balanced game. But there's nothing wrong with a new game every hand if that's what makes the players happy.