Originally Posted by horny goat weed
I guess I hate rivers in general, IMO I would like to try and have it in after the first draw. Your game tho so however you want it to play. Just as a river I would guess you would have more players holding on the see the community cards in a desperate hope their hand would improve.
I would like it to be a fun game for other people besides only me to play, so that's why I posted it and do actually want feedback, so no need for the disclaimer.
Here's my take:
So, I take it you only play 5 card games because any other kind of game will have (bad) players staying in with a "desperate hope their hand will improve" but if you think about it, that desperate hope is how we make money.
Texas Holdem, for example, is over after the flop in most cases, especially when played no limit. If there was no turn or river, though, bad players wouldn't call bets with speculative hands and there would be no money to be made. There has to be some small chance of improvement to keep people calling bets. And they have to hit sometimes so they keep doing it. If you don't like people drawing, you could go back to playing 20 card straight poker like they did on the river boats back in the day, but that seems like a pretty boring game to me (and I imagine most people hence why it hasn't been played in a hundred years so)
I understand your desire to get it in after the first draw, and I imagine a lot of people would like to. That's a big reason why you can't (the first two betting rounds are limit). If everyone was just drawing to trips or a big pair then betting the farm, it would be a pretty boring game to play.
The limit betting and the fact that you never get less than two cards at once makes the game pretty friendly to drawy hands in general. On the third betting round where it's pot limit, even if someone bet the pot, if there is at least one caller, flush draws will have the odds to call if all their cards are live.
Drawing is what makes the game profitable and not being able to price out draws 100% of the time makes the game more interesting.