For a home game among friends

If every once in a while you try to call a card before the flop is shown, is it wrong? Does it make a difference whether your in the hand? Just so you understand, the betting is done preflop, so I say a 7 of hearts is coming on the flop.

My thoughts are if your not in the hand, it would be best not to do this. If your in the hand, what would you say?

Personally I think it is poor etiquette to do so, especially if you are in the hand.

We had a guy in our game, would occasionally "root" 7-7-2 as the flop was being dealt if he was in the big blind and it limped around to him. It was funny the first time he did it but it got old fast.

We have barely organized chaos at every game I play in. One player to a hand is more of a suggestion than a rule. Cross talk, trash talk, reading and misreading the board - every sort of chatter. No doubt sometimes it crosses the line even for us. But the bottom line is our games are fun. There is something crazy fun about a guy screaming "sucker fish" after calling for a nine, hitting it for the runner-runner gut shot and stacking me when I flopped top set. (OK it wasn't fun at the moment but in hindsight it was hilarious.)

What is "wrong" is highly subjective. Do your players object? Is it just one guy chattering while the rest are silent? That is where your answer is - not here on 2+2

Just have fun, everything else will take care of itself -=- DrStrange

No. But in my opinion it's in poor taste.

Seems immature if you're not in the hand. If you're in the hand, seems like possible angle shooting (but I don't know why... just a feeling).

I would have less respect for anyone who called out the name of a card on the flop. It would be a distraction and therefore a mild irritation. But friends sometimes say things or have mannerisms that are mildly irritating. For example, one friend never fails to have a laugh and make a remark about San Francisco when a queen and a trey both appear on the board or someone's hand. In my mind it's like a ten year old making a sound like a fart over and over, thinking it's funny each time.

I wouldn't do it either way but I wouldn't complain if someone else did it, though I'd think the person who did it had poor taste.

Sorry, but you asked.

Buzz

A few guys complain, others are impressed. This is a group where rules often change game to game and there are very special rules. I wasn't doing it that often, But I'm going to stop because its a distraction to the game.

It makes sense what you guys wrote.

If I feel a real urge to call a card, it would only be when I'm heads up and one player is all in.

Folks in less serious games do this kind of stuff. Personally I think it's harmless, especially among regular players/friends for low stakes.

Eh, doesn't bother me.

It sounds kind of weird as described. Like I basically just don't get it.

More common version is "pair the board" or "spade" or whatever by somebody in a pot before the river or whatever. If a player just started randomly calling out cards before the flop I'd probably think he was simple tbh.

Well I thought I should tone it down some when I'm not in the hand. A few guys got testy over it. I've had a good streak in calling it right. And no, I don't call it when I m dealing. I was only trying if 5-6 times a night anyways

IMHO, it fails to provide any benefit, and risks upsetting people.

Sure, as mentioned, someone might get a chuckle once, but then it just gets tired.

All it takes as a dealer, is one time to call the x-outer as you deal it. to create doubt/anger.

If you are calling for a card that provides a winner to Player 1, how does that make Player 2 feel?

Keep the home game friendly.


PS Assume that if it were the kind of game that everyone shouted out stuff, this thread wouldn't have been created.

Its a lively game, no mercy is shown. A few players complained about the card calling, which was always done on the flop. Some players are impressed, most have no comment really. I wasn't doing it that much but I will dial it back.

Yeah, I can see how it might be fun to try and correctly call the next card. But unless I am really enjoying myself, I'll stop doing things that annoy other people.

Of course, there are some people who I really enjoy annoying.

I have one player at my game that has done this about 5-6 times in the 10 years that I’ve played with him. Scary thing is, he’s been right over 50% of the time which is slightly creepy (and no, he is never dealing when it happens).

We have another guy that will occasionally make a subtle requests for a card, “I would really like a 3 on this flop”. That’s actually interesting because you never know if he is telling the truth (I’ve seen it both ways). There was one time several years ago that he said, “Dealer, I’m thinking that I would like to see a 5”. The board came three 5’s and he bet and was called on all three streets, and flipped over the 5 in his hand to take it down.

The thing about both of these players is that they do this once every few tournaments which adds something to the game. If they did it frequently, it would be the Glenn Hughes effect (see 2004 WSOP main event if you didn’t get the reference).

Elaborate.....what does this mean?

Its a friendly game but rules aren't the standards. They decide the best way to resolve a problem if it happens and sometimes the ruling doesn't match what was ruled on in the past. It's $20 buyins, a donkey fest

last game we had there was a new player and he was dealing in a hand I was allin with another player preflop. I had a pair and the other player had 2 overs and the flop gave the other player a higher pair. The new guy said something like sorry after he put down the flop and I calmly said its ok, that I had faith in him, I hit my two outer on the river.

I've had a good run at calling them, so much so that I never try when I deal. I'll only try before the burn card is dealt. Anyways, the most I try would be 5-6 times over the night and that would only happen if I hit a couple right. But still, I'll dial it back some.

Must be something about growing up on Jupiter.

It pisses me off when people not in the hand do it. I don't even like when people just comment, "Oh, a J would also make it" or whatever. The poker gods will hear you, shut up if you're not involved.

In home games, if I'm in the hand, I will sometimes call for a needed card, but not repeatedly and not (hopefully) too obnoxiously. It doesn't bother me at all if my opponent does it. We all want to win, of course you want that card to come, and saying it out loud doesn't change anything (despite my superstition from above). I've probably done it occasionally in a casino too, but definitely less often as it makes you look like a fish.

Is that HAL the computers eye from 2001 that he has for an avatar? Co incidence?

LOL

Hal9000, I love the movie. Same avatar I use in online poker.

"Give me the nine of clubs, HAL."



"I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that."

LOL, yes.

Best post, hands down!