August 2012 Open Thread

[Schmendr1ck]

Took down a 10-man NLHE tourney with reasonably good play, one really bad call (early) and only a couple of lucky suckouts last night. It felt good to be on my game and getting the RUNGOOT at the same time.

[jzpiano]

Can't believe it's august already. Pretty much means my summer hours are now over and the kiddos are coming back soon. On the poker front I haven't played since HPI and am probably going good to take another week off and then get back into it next week.

[Precept2]

Originally Posted by rescued

Going to check out a local 1/2 game tonight. Its raked. Somewhat fairly. Will post any noteworthy results. First time in a game like this in 4 years.

So. How did it go? Was it everything you remember trying to avoid for the past 4 years?

[rescued]

Originally Posted by Precept2

So. How did it go? Was it everything you remember trying to avoid for the past 4 years?

Lost 290 but it was to coolers from a bad player. I busted two really good players. One of them twice. I was playing well and reading well. He runs a clean game. It was the dealers first time dealing there. She confided in me that he said to only rake what she supposed to. There are multiple games around here with a "snatch rake" (take what you can from any given pot) this isn't one those. He wants repeat business and you can tell. Catering food from local Mexican joint with beer, water, and green tea to drink.

So the rake is 10% up to five with an additional 5 pulled from pots over 100. Steep, I know. But never more than that. I was watching. The players are a good mix of bad to really good (one guy has like 2 mill in tourney cashes; although I didn't verify that bit of info.)

I think ill go back as long as the bankroll holds up and the wiferoll doesn't mind.

Better than the drive to tunica for a similar game. I've been to one of those snatch games(before I knew it raked like that) and this one feels much much less shady.

[dugthefish]

Originally Posted by rescued

(one guy has like 2 mill in tourney cashes; although I didn't verify that bit of info.)

And he's now playing 1-2? I call BS (on him, not you )

Unless his name was Jean Beniot

[rescued]

Originally Posted by dugthefish

And he's now playing 1-2? I call BS (on him, not you )

Unless his name was Jean Beniot

He didn't make the claim. Others in the game did. He has at least 3 world series circuit rings. I just looked him up on hendon mob. He has won a good bit.

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/play...prize&dir=desc

His name is Kyle and he's a cool kid. I support whatever he's got going on in poker.

[rescued]

Originally Posted by rescued

He didn't make the claim. Others in the game did. He has at least 3 world series circuit rings. I just looked him up on hendon mob. He has won a good bit.

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/play...prize&dir=desc

His name is Kyle and he's a cool kid. I support whatever he's got going on in poker.

Hendon mob put him at over 450k. Its not 2 mill but its a chunk of monies. He's from here and is friends with these guys. He plays all limits for the love of the game.

[dugthefish]

Originally Posted by rescued

Hendon mob put him at over 450k. Its not 2 mill but its a chunk of monies. He's from here and is friends with these guys. He plays all limits for the love of the game.

I had no idea there was a site like that. Cool that you got to play with somebody like that; stiff competition is good for your game.

[rescued]

Originally Posted by dugthefish

I had no idea there was a site like that. Cool that you got to play with somebody like that; stiff competition is good for your game.

Most definitely. Looking forward to seeing him play some tourney poker. Going down to tunica Saturday to play and he'll be there for the WPO (world poker open-2week tourney series at gold strike)

[lanyi]

Don't you love it when you win leveling wars?

Game tonight, I pick up black AA in EP pop it to 7xbb with around 100bb effective. LP/LAG flats behind me as does one other player in the blinds.
Flop comes Tx2 with 2 spades. Checked to me and I decide to check. I know the guy behind me loves to stab at pots, I decide to go for it. Sure enough he obliges and bets close to pot, one call back to me. I call
Turn is an off suit Q, check, check, check.
OK, now I know the guy either has air or he's playing pot control with something like TP or less.
River is a 2. Total blank. Checked to me, and I decide to donk close to pot. This line completely confuses him, this looks like AK spades that missed or some such (At least I hope he sees it that way), and this guy loves the hero calls. He debates for 2 minutes and finally calls. I show the AA and scoop.

Later this guy got stacked with AA vs. a set 270bb deep. He opens to 4xbb from EP, LAG tard pops it to 11xbb, Folds back to him and he makes it 60xbb (lol). This is typical as he plays scared with premiums when he gets deep. LAG puts him on a small PP and calls with his 88, flop comes T8x, shove call, tilt ensues....

He busted later, and then LAG tard got a taste of his own medicine. Raise to 4xbb from LP/LAG player in EP, I pop it to 12xbb with 99, flat from LAG tard, back to EP who pops it to 42xbb. I agonize and fold, now LAG tard wakes up and 5 bets to 75xbb after he flatted my 3-bet earlier. EP debates for a long time and finally calls with just over 200xbb behind. Flop comes 86x, he shoves with his flopped set of 66, LAG tard calls with his AA, and the money goes around again.

Twice in the same night REALLY expensive (and bad) set mining calls hit and stack AA in 500bb pots.

I ended up 140xbb

Next week on vacation with the family, will post some pics when I get back.

[rescued]

Grats on the win. Always good to book one. Way to avoid the land mines in those spots. Enjoy the vaca

[rescued]

Went to casinos Saturday night for some nlhe cash games. Decided (subconsciously) that I was gonna play bad when I first got there. Had KQ and flopped top pair, played too passively and let donk get there on the river with TT hitting a set on the last card. Of course I pay off his minraise on the river.

Then decent player sits down. He straddles the button (Mississippi straddle very common in these games, we are in MS after all) and I open with 55 both black. He 3bets and I call thinking his straddle 3 betting range is waaaay bigger than it is. Flop comes 236 rainbow. I check he bets I call. Thinking maybe a cbet from AK or similar. Turn is 7 making me open ended. I check he bets I shove. Thinking I have some fold equity here. Plus pair might be good or straight could come. He has set of 7s and I brick river. Luckily he was short stacked.

So later another hand with the first guy I get 33 in LP. Call a standard open raise and got to the flop 5 handed. Flop is QTT checks around. Turn is 3 I bet out get called by guy from first hand everyone else folds. I'm kinda short at this point maybe 150ish of my 300 buy in. So river come some blank and he checks and I ship my boat into the middle only for him to snap call with QQ for the flopped boat. Yaaaaay.

Rebuy for 300 more. Get stuck another 100. Pick up chips and go next door to goldstrike (been at horseshoe. Strike and shoe practically touch each other). Buy in for 300. Float around even.

MP opens CO calls, I'm on the button and look down at 2 kings. I three bet and it folds to CO who min 4bets me. I think for a few secs and ship my ~290 stack in and get a speech "if you got a big pocket pair I'm in trouble but we might be racing" he says. I flip over my kings and hold for a sweet double up. Got KK again for a good pot and AA for a good pot.

So after being stuck 400 and have another 300 on the table I run it back up for a 289 profit and enjoy driving home as the sun comes up.

[mariettabull]

TL;DR: Setting up a WSOP-C ME Tournament League. Have an initial set-up for prize money distribution but am looking for opinions on variation. Didn't figure it was worth a separate thread since it's just general brain storming stuff.

After a disappointing response to the idea of a WSOP tournament league (to give away a seat to a WSOP non-ME tournament), the advent of a WSOP-C event in Cherokee (about 3 hours away) provided another opportunity (as I'd had a few people express an interest in doing one for a circuit event but not the WSOP itself).

Right now, I have 9 definites (including myself) and about 6 'maybes' (generally "check with the wife/timing/etc hold-offs). Given that it's not set to start until November, it's likely we could see two full tables and give away two seats to the Cherokee WSOP-C ME.

For those who don't check the Looking for Games in Atlanta thread, here is the proposed set-up:

5 monthly tournaments for a $120 buy-in. $60 of it goes to the prize pool for the tournament that night, $40 goes to the tournament points leader prize (the C-ME seat), and $20 goes to the consolation tournament. All the tournaments are going to be T10000 in chips with 25 minute blinds starting at 25/50 (total structure puts time at between 6-7 hours to finish the tournament at the longest).

As currently proposed, for 10 players, you have the following breakdown:
$2000 to the points leader for the WSOP-C ME buy-in ($1675) plus traveling money ($325).
$600 for each monthly tournament for the prize pool (paying out $300/$180/$120).
$1000 for the consolation tournament (for those who don't win the seat, paying out $500/$300/$200).

One of the maybes has suggested doing away with the consolation tournament and lowering the monthly tournament payout to be able to give away two seats to the ME per 10 players. My primary concern with that idea is players losing interest toward the end if they're out of the running for one of the ME seats. Even with a gentlemens' agreement that you're going to pay for all the tournaments, I have no way to enforce it other than Wheaton's Law.

So thoughts on prize money distribution? Structure? Etc?

Thanks.

I ordered the tournament chips this morning, going with some lower end but not complete crap chips that are only for tournaments. With what I ordered, I could conceivably run this for up to 40 players (though where I'd find the space for that, I have no idea--even if we get 20, it's going to be pushing it).

[rescued]

Both points are valid. If you send folks to the ME will the rest of the group get a percentage of the prize taken by your representatives? If so, I like lowering it and sending 2 for, albeit slightly, better odds at that big score. Plus if one of your guys wins the whole thing they go to Vegas and play the national championship for a chance at another big score, which you could have a piece of that action as well.... Just my 0.02.

[gedanken]

In your consolation tournament, does everyone start with equal stacks? based on attendance? points? is the winner eligible?