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Old 06-30-2012, 06:18 PM   #1
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Attention AZ Players: Busted Poker Room's Equipment Up for Auction

So, in case you'd like to stock your poker room with the contents of a busted poker room:

http://sierraauctions.auctionflex.co...enum=1&lang=En

Information about the bust: http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region...nto-california

[Legal discussion has already been in and out of the legal forum, so I'm just providing background on the equipment.]
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Old 06-30-2012, 11:11 PM   #2
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interesting. Thanks for posting this.
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Old 06-30-2012, 11:51 PM   #3
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Welcome. I'm considering going to the auction - as I've got a friend who's "into" these sorts of things - if for no other reason than to see who shows up and bids on things. I'm moderately interested in the tables and chairs if they go for the right price.

I wouldn't take the chips at more than $0.02/ea though.
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Old 07-01-2012, 12:19 AM   #4
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I might be interested in one of the chair lots- they look very much like the ones I have, and if (ok, when) I build my 3rd table I'll need 10 more chairs of course. But you're right- the price has to be good. they looked a bit rough in the pix. and new ones are under 25 bucks ea.

I do need some tv's in the poker room. I wonder what those will go for.
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I wouldn't take the chips at more than $0.02/ea though.
Underground club and they can't afford better chips?
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Underground club and they can't afford better chips?
Every time I visit a "room" or see one busted, I always think to myself how bad their chips are.
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Every time I visit a "room" or see one busted, I always think to myself how bad their chips are.
So basically every underground room is ripe for getting scammed by players bringing their own chips from home and adding them onto their stack? Either there are additional security measures I'm not aware of or the rake is so obscenenly high they don't care.
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Old 07-01-2012, 12:13 PM   #8
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Pro poker chips sell in 500 chip quanities for ~20 cents each. While (perhaps) better than dice chips, these chips are not good and offer no security. Chip security should be a big deal, more so if 25's or 100's are in play.

The problem with high security custom chips might be the time it takes rather than the cost. As many proud owners of custom chips can attest to - some times the orders take forever. My impression of many undergound games is they are 'slap-dash' affairs with short lead times and not much experience.

If it were my underground card room, I'd have gone with a custom hot stamp on a less common blank. That offers much better security, isn't that expensive and can be done quickly.

OK this is a lie - - If I were going to open a room, the chips would be high end custom chips even if I had to wait a year to open. However the prudent business choice would be hot stamping for speed, cost and security.

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OK this is a lie - - If I were going to open a room, the chips would be high end custom chips even if I had to wait a year to open. However the prudent business choice would be hot stamping for speed, cost and security.

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The "prudent business man" would probably still go for the more complex edge spot patterns on the higher denom chips just for better security, even if he was using hot stamps.
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That ATM would be perfect for my poker room.
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Old 07-02-2012, 12:10 PM   #11
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The "prudent business man" would probably still go for the more complex edge spot patterns on the higher denom chips just for better security, even if he was using hot stamps.
When I go for my custom ASMs, I'm going for edgespots but with no inlay or hotstamp. Mostly bc ASM's denom stamp is too simple and I can't afford full inlays. Put them on some HH with standard base colors and denoms aren't necessary.

Ok sorry for the thread de-railment
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Old 07-02-2012, 04:12 PM   #12
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That ATM would be perfect for my poker room.
It's one of those items I'd buy to resell if it went at the right price -- but I'm also pretty sure that it's one of those auction items that the professional auction churners know to buy and at what price it's worth their time.

As to chips, custom hot-stamping seems the low-budget solution with at least mid-level security.


At a minimum, you could buy your own hotstamper for $600 or so.
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I just think it'd be badass to get busted, then walk over to your own personal atm to get the next buy-in out.
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Old 07-02-2012, 06:22 PM   #14
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I just think it'd be badass to get busted, then walk over to your own personal atm to get the next buy-in out.
Slightly less badass than busting your opponent, and then sending him to your ATM to watch him reload.
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Re: Attention AZ Players: Busted Poker Room's Equipment Up for Auction

With that annoying as hell $1 fee, for extra tilt factor
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