Originally Posted by WheelDraw1020
Go to a home game where there is a culture and age gap.
Try to never insult other people or disrespect them or the house.
Take a hard line during a deal, where I was getting shafted but others thought was totally fiar.
Tell a player I effectively outplayed him, which leads to the wife of the home owner to hate me.
Rake a pot where I have gin before other player mucks, even though they are clearly going to muck.
Get told I might not get to go back, more a loss for my gf, if I don't stfu and act right.
Friends at the game don't think I do anything out of line, but their my friends what are they supposed to say?
Do I get out of line iyo?
Culture and age gap is no big deal. It's poker.
Not insulting people is good.
Not taking the deal is fine. There may have been better ways to handle it but it couldn't have been too bad if similar to how you stated it. They were a little out of line (the guy who said 3 out of 4 is quite a bit out of line in general but home games are home games...) but don't know better.
The telling the player you outplayed him thing was really stupid. You sound like you talk way, way too much strategy in general. At a two plus two table it's douchey imo at a group like this what in the world are you thinking? No strat talk at the table is like the golden rule of advantage gaming. Also, as an online pro against a table of weak passive fish you really need to talk hands out out loud to figure them out? Really? This question/category is far and away your biggest sin in my eyes fwiw. I wouldn't want you at the game.
The rake pot thing isn't good but I guess it's not terrible in the given situation. The expression "I HAD the joint" is weird when you river somebody. It's probably not the best way to act in a game where you're costing everybody money. It's kind of strange imo in any game but maybe I'm reading it wrong. I'd think you were a weirdo if you said it to me.
It's a private game. The game is probably better if you aren't there. You cost them money and don't bring any other value apparently. It's probably a good call on the host's part.
Yeah, at least a little, and that's based on your post there could be other things you aren't mentioning. Also, the bottom line is it doesn't matter if you're out of line or not. It's an invite game. You know there are things you could do to make yourself a better invite. That's your choice.
Good cliffs/ post in general.
As to talking about hands out loud, I rarely do it. But when I do it's more in a joking manner, usually when someone does something that makes no sense to me, like donk shove a card that should change nothing in the hand, ect. Also I'm not that good at NLHE, which is all these people play, which was stated in OP...
Originally Posted by Bob67
I never talk about hands at a table. Its giving away information. If someone asks about a hand they played, i would just answer in general terms.
Originally Posted by eneely
At least three times, you have said you only talk when you are in the hand. Like that is OK, and should not bother anyone. But that working through the hand out loud, can really rub some people the wrong way.
It depends on how you do it. I wasn't there, and you can't give us a transcript. But you asked "am I out of line here?" I would say you probably were. You admit to making comments about how people play (yes, only sometimes, and only when you are in the hand), and they obviously don't like it, because they don't want you to play. It could be they are out of line....but odds are, it's you.
You've probably heard the line "don't tap on the glass." It appears you are tapping away, and justifying it by claiming you are thinking out loud. It doesn't matter.
This, at least, contributes something to the thread. And obv telling people you beat them, not just in poker, usually rubs people the wrong way.