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01-22-2017 , 09:33 PM
Below is my current structure and have been consistent with ending about 13/14. Starting stacks of 8k with about 20 players.

I want to add ante's into the mix but still want to end around the same time. How much do ante's affect game length and any recommendation for ante levels?

Level Small Big Length
Blind Blind Minutes
1 25 50 0:20
2 50 100 0:20
3 100 200 0:20
BREAK 0:10
4 200 400 0:20
5 300 600 0:20
6 400 800 0:20
BREAK 0:10
7 500 1,000 0:20
8 1,000 2,000 0:20
9 1,500 3,000 0:20
10 2,000 4,000 0:20
11 3,000 6,000 0:20
12 5,000 10,000 0:15
13 7,000 14,000 0:15
14 10,000 20,000 0:15
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01-24-2017 , 02:49 PM
I plugged this in as best I could into BlindValet.com and, turning off and on antes, it did not change the structure. It added 25T antes at the third level. Blind Valet had that level at 75/150.

So I suppose you could keep it as is, add the antes, and see what happens. If it seems to end too early, try adding the antes without raising the blinds for that level.

As a side note, Blind Valet used to export structures to the clipboard in various formats. I miss that feature. Here's the best I can do using the CODE code:

Code:
Blind Structure

TIME	SB	BB	ANTE
1	20 min	25	50	-
2	20 min	50	100	-
3	20 min	75	150	25
4	20 min	100	200	25
5	20 min	150	300	25
6	20 min	200	400	50
7	20 min	300	600	75
8	20 min	500	1000	100
9	20 min	800	1600	200
10	20 min	1200	2400	300
11	20 min	2000	4000	500
12	20 min	3000	6000	500
13	20 min	5000	10000	1500
14	20 min	8000	16000	2000
15	20 min	12000	24000	3000
16	20 min	20000	40000	5000
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01-27-2017 , 06:58 PM
I used to host 2-3 table MTTs a couple times a year, we did antes once and it wasn't worth it. In self-dealt games, the combo of getting the dealer to be on top of this, and getting even 2/3 of the table to post antes in a timely fashion, just doesn't happen often enough. We liked the idea in theory, but we were ready to ditch it within about 20 min.

The other factor is that my structure was very similar to yours, and at the break we could clean up all the 25s. With the antes you'll have to keep them on the table. Then people do dumb bet sizes like 1525, and you're making change every betting round.
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01-28-2017 , 06:04 PM
I agree with ^. We never have antes.
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02-15-2017 , 06:36 PM
We never have antes either. The only time we'll do antes is in stud games and our ANTE ONLY tournament. Agree with the part where folks forget that antes are EVERY hand until the tournaments over. Most ppl have short attention span to remember and I hate being ante police.
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