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02-24-2015 , 10:04 AM
Flips only work when everyone cashes out at the same time. What do you do when people leave early?
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02-24-2015 , 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Sal Bandini
Flips only work when everyone cashes out at the same time. What do you do when people leave early?
I'd say, "You want change? You do? Got a quarter? No? Okay, no change. Bye."
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02-24-2015 , 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Sal Bandini
What's with all the talk of flipping? And rounding up, for that matter? Round down to the nearest dollar and keep the change. You are the host, aren't you?
Yes but i don't do it to make money. Another thing is I'm a part of the salt lake city home poker meetup group here in Utah. And one of the rules in that group is no fees, rakes, etc. Although i don't think anyone would care about a few quarters I just assume make it fair.

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Originally Posted by Sal Bandini
Flips only work when everyone cashes out at the same time. What do you do when people leave early?
I thought about that. But with my cash game everyone knows, and is expected to stay until the game is scheduled to end.

I've decided that I'm going to flip for the extra quarters at the end. Anyone needing to leave early will forfeit their extra quarters. I'll either put them into the next pot, or hold them aside to be flipped for at the end. Probably into the pot, considering it will be $0.75 at the most, unless multiple people leave.

All of this will be announced up front so there should be no issues.

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02-24-2015 , 02:18 PM
If you have a cash game where everyone always stays till the very end of the session, then you have a very co operative crew indeed. Our group is sound and full of long time regs, BUT we do not claim that virtue LOL. Good luck again.
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02-24-2015 , 02:21 PM
Not that hard to do an individual flip with somebody leaving. Guy has 75 cents, player who gives him action has an odd qtr, first card next flop is a spade guy gives up the 75 cents, club/heart/diamond, he gets the qtr to have an even dollar.
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02-24-2015 , 02:35 PM
Yeah i have a pretty good group. People don't always stay the whole time. But everyone knows that if they commit to play that they know wet go from 6pm-10pm. And everyone plans to play for that time period. If they have to leave early i usually know before the game starts.

People sign up to play 8 handed poker, not to play 8 handed, then 4-5 handed 2 hours in because people bounce early. So i try and make people aware that they need to be able to stay the entire time.

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02-24-2015 , 02:52 PM
Just about the only time someone leaves at our game early is when...well, let's say when they don't have a quarter chip issue to deal with.
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02-24-2015 , 02:54 PM
Yeah people leave early sometimes when they bust out... but i don't have to cash people out early very often.

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02-24-2015 , 03:21 PM
Get $20 worth of quarters from the bank and put them in a jar somewhere, and make change as needed. Collect $1s or $5s from the payouts as needed to keep everything square.

If you need more quarters, go back to the bank (or, keep collecting quarters you get throughout your day, and stuff them in the jar)

If you end up with too many quarters (because people don't want them), then take 'em to the bank or a CoinStar.
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02-24-2015 , 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by eneely
Just about the only time someone leaves at our game early is when...well, let's say when they don't have a quarter chip issue to deal with.
Totally different with us. We start around 7 pm or as soon as we have 5 players. The table fills up to max fairly soon. Some folks bust , others have excuses , and we usually end up the last hour or so 4 or 5 handed around 12:30 to 1 am sat. Actually I like it that way because I can get both FR and short handed experience in the same session. Sometimes I even learn a tidbit or two that I have missed.
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02-24-2015 , 06:39 PM
I should add that not everyone leaves when the bell strikes X. But we let everyone know at the beginning of the game if we are leaving at say 11 instead of midnight. We usually break when we get down to four if we lose too many.

I would define "leaving early" as before your announced time. That tends to happen when some players hit their stop loss limit.
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02-24-2015 , 07:13 PM
We do the flip thing. We play .05-.10 though, so someone can have to put up to .95 in the pot. But as a concession, whoever puts in the most money gets to pick the type of game we use for the flip (Omaha, Holden, stud). NO DRAW GAMES ALLOWED.
If you cash out early in my game and have spare change, you're in for the flip at the end. I'll hold your money until next game and give it to you then.
If you don't have any spare change (cashing out $25 exactly) you don't get in automatically. You can join the fun still if you want, but it costs you a buck to enter the frenzy.
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02-24-2015 , 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by billyf111
If you don't have any spare change (cashing out $25 exactly) you don't get in automatically. You can join the fun still if you want, but it costs you a buck to enter the frenzy.
I don't understand how cashing out $25 is the only way to not have any spare change.
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02-24-2015 , 08:54 PM
I think he means cashing out an even dollar amount vs $25.10, $25.05, $25.75 etc....
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02-24-2015 , 10:47 PM
Put them in a bad beat jackpot.

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02-25-2015 , 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by jsomethin
Put them in a bad beat jackpot.

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Could be a bad idea depending on the laws where you live. The game itself might be completely legal but once you start holding money for another day, it probably becomes an underground card game.
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02-25-2015 , 09:48 AM
Not sure if someone offered this idea yet, but we started adding loose change into a bad beat jackpot. All the regs seeded it with $5 to start it up, then loose change is added after every game. Our .25/.50 game ended up with well over $100 before it paid out.

We played a lot of mixed (wild card) games, so to keep it simple we said it could only pay for hold em or PLO. Aces full of tens (our better) beat in hold em and quads (or better) beat in PLO.

We paid out 75% to the winner and left the 25% to seed the next jackpot.

ETA: Lol, just saw the post above suggested it. Not sure about legality, but seems like it's at least as legal as "we just throw in the spare change to pay the host." IMO, no one's going to care in a .25/.25 game. If you had $50k in a jackpot for a 2/5 game it would be sketchythough.
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02-25-2015 , 12:00 PM
Social poker laws mostly are concerned about the host/hosts profiting directly (somehow) for spreading a game. BBJ are open for all to win and we have never had a player object to the .25 "rake" for a pot over $5 yet. Since the hosts and the players have about the same chances of winning it may be totally legal by Kentucky law, or just a hair over the line. Likely, as DakotaKid remarked , whatever your State laws say, a weekly or bi weekly social .25/.50 game with a BBJ is not going to be targeted by serious local authorities very often if ever.

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02-25-2015 , 03:45 PM
Our change is in dollars. If you have change, great. If you don't, you get rounded down and the extra goes to the host (me). I just buy cards with the extra money. In the long run, I'm sure that I'm down money, but it just means that I don't have to buy everything on my dime.
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02-25-2015 , 11:32 PM
I used to play in a 1/2 limit home game that had 50 cent chips (for the small blind). I always just told the host to keep the change if I had an od number, and I assume everyone else did as well, I never saw him with change.
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02-26-2015 , 05:03 AM
The scenario in our game most closely resembles VB Aces game, we cash out all whole dollars and whatever is left over in quarters (usually $2-3 in bills) goes in the middle and everybody who had leftover change gets dealt a five-card hand, we do it face down turning up one card at a time to make it more suspenseful, and winner take all. People who cash out early are still dealt a hand and if they win their money is held for them until the next week.

There is always optional "side action" of usually about $10 per person that you can play whether you had change leftover or not, so it is possible to win the side action but not the leftover change, and vice versa. It always makes the end of the night more exciting.
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03-02-2015 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by eneely
I was so eager to share our final flip hand, which we call the "deal around" for some reason, I forgot to write that we never pay out quarters. We round up (for the losing players) or down or just donate them to the host. Or if someone has .75 and you have a quarter extra, just toss it to them.
I like the idea of rounding up for losing players and down for winning players. Seems like a simple solution and makes a tiny effort to ease the pain.
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04-06-2015 , 10:11 AM
move up to where they respect your cash outs
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