We was continuing playing mtts (e: with good results i should add) there until he emptied the accs and posted this:

just wow, even in ur first sentence so many lies... we was getting 80% not 85, u promised us 45% rb inPMs not 35... sustain $50 a day at 5nl, good one....

"If you end up doing this hopefully you consider me for your future poker endeveour so i can make some affiliate $ off you guys a bit :P In canada you can easily make 12-16$/hr on that phone thing, dunno about the UK companies."

lol

I understand your reasoning for trying to cash out, even only $10, to check it isn't a scam, but your bro Izzit said it was a lie that you tried to cashout without asking for permission. That was wrong. It was not a lie. That's a fact.

Doesn't mean that you were wrong to try and cashout, but for izzit to act so shocked and make out that ...I was completely lying was factually wrong.

He made some $, you made some $, should all be happy enough, but seems he thinks he could have made more money, you could have made more money and all been better off than your current scenario and this tilts him.

not sure what post your talking about, i didnt say or mean to say anything about any cashout...

Was referring to this post, thought you were calling him out as a lier for saying you tried to withdraw money from a staked account without asking first? http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=2332

yes sorry i just looked, i was suppose to quote his whole post and my response was to the whole thing.

For a good 6 month's we was promised such goodness if only we'd play on this site with no deals set in stone, the lies i spoke of refer to this as we was told one thing but given another..

as far as the 'staking' or 'deal' went nothing was wrong on each behalf it was a win-win as far as im concerned, my problem is with what was promised to what was there and considering the results on the site i have no idea what sparked the cancellation and this conversation...

Time to fold Cambodia and reevaluate this whole poker and life thing.

..III... Why Are you trying to get players to play on a site for you when you created a thread about it being full of perfect GTO bots at 50nl

Seems both parties made mistakes.

80/20 winnings and getting only 35% of RB on a site where beating rake at non stakes may be impossible isn't the great deal some people are making out here. If it also included makeup then it's v v lol.

Agree!

Obvious under the most circumstances the deal would be so good, that its out of the world.
I have informed myself in the past bout this topic cause I have considered with 2 HSNL-Buddies to start a staking-biz and take Microplayers under contract including longtemr Coaching obviously (imo staking without making your stakes destroyers is not the optimal thing in general for both parties and also makes no fun^^...) , but it did not happen so far... should it happen one day in the future, I might try to get the bros inside cause I think both are smart, and not talentless (just their past lifestyle did not allow to progress some potnetial - but not blaming - maybe such a timeframe was even needed) + they live in camb, as I do and I respect that both had in the past the ballz to come here.... though some environmental circumstances would have to change in order to to choose the bros, but this they already know themselves..



Anyways back to the staking-deal, what I have found out is that 50% of the winnings seems to be the standard.

However,
if the bros rly "had to" play on the mentioned site - then its absurd given the limits they play.
I mean, wtf - I know this site and its soft (I have played there in the past some 400-1k a bit cause there rake is not such a big factor anymore, until the traffic has broken suddenly a lot),
but its not so soft that is a ubergreat option for Microplayers with an absurd 5€-cap and also a ridiciouls cap at Hu and 3-handed action which makes table-starting essentially not possible there...


So agree, that offered deal looks better than it was...
I also find it not so cool that....I:... makes all this bull**** now public- I do not see that the bros did something rly scammy here and made an uberbad sin (lol@trying out if the cashouts are working by attempting to withdrawl 10 bucks).
It just seems that both parties are frustrated with the outcome and exspecially ...I... cannot let it go now....

Kinda lowclassy to post this BS public, cause nothing really scammy happens imo - so there is no point in worsen their image in order to protect some future potential staker and communitymembers cause as said, imo nothing really bad happens here which justyfies this "outing"....

Yeah I don't think either party is really in the wrong here. The deal just wasn't satisfying to both parties, that doesn't mean one party is in the wrong.

I also have trouble seeing 365 as a multitabling site, the software is just not that easy to navigate a lot of tables. It's not a sketchy site though by any means. I actually play poker with two of the owners (at least they say, they are big on exaggerating though, they might just run the poker room or something) and they are stand up guys and I don't think would let anything really shady go on.

Yeah, sure - I never had so for a bad experience there when I have played there and so did not have buddies fro mme who also played there...
Cashouts went very quickly through, support was good and what not - so nothing to complain here and imo its not a sketchy option or anything....

But its just not optimal imo for Microstake-players cause of the ridic high rake-cap...


I have also heard that the management from 365 wanna make it pokerwise larger in the upcoming future, but then imo the first thing they should consider is to lower the rakecap at a competetive level...

Hi

I am not UK guy but seems Skypoker very soft and only for UK people.
Maybe good idea to try it with 30% RB.

GL

Dude their fam is coming in a month. At least lets see what happens there. Maybe they'll get a new staking deal.

BTW bros seeing as you are grinding nanostakes imo it would be way better to do it on Unibet. I'm not sure if it's open to Cambo but you can check.

For stakes up to 10NL it's the nuts. Absolute lol field and smallest rake in industry.

You can't really mass table it but the insane winrates make up for it.

kinda funny this whole ...I.... stuff kind of adds another bit of entertainment to the whole thread that was otherwise dieing a little bit... looks to me like you might be best explaining the whole situation to your loving parents and hoping they buy you tickets back to England with them when they head back after their holiday...

This has been one hell of an adventure and was never gonna last forever. I would suggest that you leave now while you still have the good times to look back on rather than desperately trying to stay somewhere where you can barely afford to live and are super stressed when you lose another buy in at $2nl.

This is coming from someone that did a similar thing in Peru and am so glad that I left when I did before ruining my body, mind and future.

Just my 2 cence

I suck, think I understand about 30% of this. The mind boggles.

LOL!! When I get staked, yes the first thing I want to know is when/how/where/how fast I can get my cashout too,, you knew they were hard up, ofc they want to cash out..

So ur telling me its ok to play under someone elses account and its standard practice for all non poker staking deals? What a load of krap.. and you not being an affiliate? why would you push them to these sites then?? Doesnt make sense but shady as, Im sure you have only done yourself damage here.

As for the bros, look guys, there are 2 of you so in theory it should be easier to make work overseas, but I think what you realise now is the discipline required. You can have your 1 day a week out partying etc, but you need to stick to rules with this and treat the staking as a job, just with more hours involved.. GL in the future,, maybe go home for now and regroup for a bit and reflect on what you could improve if you were ever to try it again.. GL boys..

this and also the rest of your post sounds like a good advice...

so where in the world are the bros now????

update pls

^ see their thread http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...bodia-1424119/

side note good to see OP got banned

oh thx for that

and yeah, good to see he is banned,, was a terrible situation they were in imo