hopefully no mod deletes this as they are blatantly lying right now

yes i ****ing tried t o cash out because im playing on someone elses acc???? if i win x amount how the f do i know its mine ?? i wanted to test the cashout works and oh guess what it doesnt, i have to go through u and u go through ur mate on skrill? cmon man....

E: playi ng on someone elses acc is illegal am i rite?? and this guy tells me its standard for staking deals

I don't think you understand what a stake is

withdrawing right after a win is not testing the cashout, it is cashing out without asking. What if you lost 200 the next day? (i still sent it)

so what we did was illegal with you mostly to blame. gg dik hed jog on f of our thread x

You might have a few tards backing you on this but let me tell you that with those answer you've lost 100% of any chance you had to ever get staked by anyone again.

I gave you a great deal knowing full well that only your brother was a winner, i was easy to deal with(3 withdrawals in 2 weeks with very little volume played) and you responded with aggressiveness and lies hoping for your envious online friends to come back you up to make it look like i was nuts.

The skype convo's are proof enough that you lied multiple time to protect yourself here.

omg please someone remove him

i cant even be arsed t o respond seriously to this guy

e: i told u i was gonna try cashout so dnt ***** lie

Judging by their busto-ness since day one it's not exactly hard to do right? If grinding 2nl can support a life in cambodia literally everyone can do it.

edit: No offense to you brothers, and I am sure I am giving you too much credit right now, but you're 2 people, with 2 brains, how could you possibly agree to such a deal? The fact that NOTHING is in your name and everything HAS to go via him should be an instant deal breaker. Instead you went with it and are now defending yourselfs like potatoes vs a dude you should've never gotten involved with in the first place.

...|... it's crystal clear you were not trying to help these guys and lured them to play on your shady site for whatever selfish reasons.

Yet, they don't.
Instead they take time off from their 9-5 grind to lurk/post itt. This thread is not 5 stars and 24 pages long without reason.

Desperate times call for desperate measures... :/ He messaged us for 6+ months trying to get us to play on his site with 90% fishies....

He kept insulting zima and the deal with him but zima is a ***** legend, he helped us so much, can never thank him enough.... ....!!.... clearly just wants us to play on his site for some extra RB, zima was a real help to us

e: obvs we knew it wasnt gonna work long time....

**** knows what you're trying to say really. Or are you going to say that something being possible = have to do it? Because, no, just no.


Fair enough, just seems like you guys got yourself into this big mess. I mean did you know the details before you agreed to anything? It just all seems so incredibly shady with everything to gain from his side and absolutely nothing from yours.

edit: poor choice of words, you're already out of the mess ofc.

Not everyone no, but even if you can is not for everyone, too many conceptions about what is right and what is wrong and how to spend your youth years might lead some people to stick to their boring 9 to 5 jobs or to a career your parents chose for you instead of pursuing the dream of living abroad on a cool country like Cambo. Besides, not everyone can live with the uncertainty the bros did with not a single penny to your name and trying to make the most out of every dollar, you really need an adventureous taste that not many out there (here) have and thats what I congratulate them for.

There's no mess... we made a small profit and so did he.. we dont want to work with him anymore, thats it,....

Reason: post all the skype + 2p2 convos all u want... its pretty clear who is in the wrong

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You want me to post every thing you'Ve said in the skype chat?

January 21: get account info
jan 24: How often and where is rb paid? and can you get my bro an account
jan 26: ok cool thanks mate
jan 27: the message about you having tried to withdraw

those are 100% of the messages since you started playing. nothing more on your side

Where did you tell me you were gonna withdraw?

please stop basing your opinion on the approval of busto tards in thailand. Almost all stables work exactly like this outside of stars. Except you would of gotten 50% of wins and 30% rb

Do it via PM's, lads. All of this public one-upmanship just makes everyone look bad.

gl OP's.

This is all very interesting, especially considering when I gave you a warning for posting this ITT:

You told me:

Where has this been happening?

omg stfu and look at the very first 2 messages i sent u on skype , u idiot

Yes that was before when they refused


This time i offered a stake because they had refused and had no funds on stars to back it up

and im still not an affiliate, they are the only person i stake that i do not know IRL

and cashouts? when can we cashout? is it instant? can use skrill..?


Yes that clearly means you're going to withdraw anytime you want from staked money.

anyways im done. Now every staker will know what they will have to deal with. Its insane that you keep insulting me when you actually tried to withdraw without asking and i still kept you going and gave you 2 more withdrawals after that.

unbelievable

Not an affiliate, and yet you're arranging for them to play on other accounts, organizing cashouts for them, and rakeback seems to be part of your deal - maybe you're not an affiliate yourself, but it sure seems like one must be a tight part of your staking group.

Anyway, you should know that I was extremely close to just permabanning you, as you give off many vibes of someone who is on 2+2 primarily to build your business for free. I'm going to take your word for now that "they are the only person i stake that i do not know IRL", but if I start hearing of more people that you got to do business with you through PM badgering, you'll be done here.

I'll be moving this entire discussion to a more suitable place in a while.

Is it time to change thread title to "Braindead brothers grinding and partying in Cambodia" yet?

So to conclude izzit, it wasn't actually a lie and you did try to withdraw money from a staked account without permission.

Like reading this thread and cheer on you both, but it doesn't seem like ... was completely in the wrong here, and you two have gone HAM on him.

...I is normally a bit strange and makes me go 0_o with his posts, but honestly this time its you 2 coming off worse in my opinion.

Good luck to all 3.

I tried to cashout one time without asking , i tried to cashout $10 to see if i can link the acc to my skrill... I stressed more then enough times how important quick cashouts was for us, on the thread, in PMs and through skype.... And believe it or not it didnt work (as i expected) and every other time we went through him who then went thru another guy to send us funds

i guess im in the wrong then? whatever... i really dont care. he made some $$ from us, lets forget it.... moving on...

I don't get why you're bashing ...|...

80/20 profit split + 30% rakeback is basically a freeroll.

Regardless of how shady the stake may be, as long as the $ is reaching you, I can't think of any reason why you would leave it to grind 2NL on Stars.