Kind of disappointed that i staked you and gave you guys 85% of profits(and still complained about 35% rakeback) to help out but you decided to just withdraw every small profit to go lose it on stars when you could of been mass tabling nl5 making 50$ a day each and then moving to 25nl where you could make 100$ a day with rakeback.

IMO as someone who's been close to where you are i think what you need is to completely go busto and learn from this and get yourself outs without posting about it. Keep it to yourself and work on improving your lives by yourselves. Relying on people is not working for you.

I was going to put back the balance after i had fixed the account but all i see is you guys posting about playing on stars and losing or breakign even. I dont see the point i'll just end up losing you after a small loss and end up down on the stake. Really disapointed, i even pointed out many times i was going to give you a ton of site to grind MTTs with 0 regulars if you kept doing good at them(which you did). Well you not your brother i dont know if hes a winner after all but you definitely are Yazzz.

if you really need help i can send you a site that lets you do phone support online. I have friends doing it in asia. They take people from the UK.
10-12$ an hour i think

...I... seems sketchy , recommending weird sites like planet win 365

if you weren't the weirdest guy ever ...I... maybe people would be more interested

Bang bang

...|... Im not even gonna respond to u.... the deal we have had has been an absolutejoke. we played for u and earnt u a bit of money. i literally cant even find the words to say a bout this.... please just leave it and we will forget this ever happened... u clearly tried to con us, the only reason we kept it going was because we have no choice right now

E: u told us nothing beforehand and jus make it up as u go along

i cant believe your serious, are you seriously such a joke this dude's ******ation is next level its topping shark's big time....

you'd feel better starting at 5 or 10nl? <- here i offer you to play higher than you play on stars in games that are in euros
[14/01/2015 12:37:25] OP: erm.. 5nl to start i guess ^^

for hud converter, give you the whole end of january to grind quickly as i was not taking any of your rakeback. could of made a quick 150euro:
if 30 euro is too much dont worry i wont take anything from your rakeback in january
[24/01/2015 10:02:41] ..|..: so buy it and grind as many hands as you can to pay for it you'll get all of it

bink-> pay profit cut before end of month

hmm came 2nd in an mtt for 260 euro or so, tried to cash out some to make sure it all works... but the acc has another skrill email registered to it ;o
[28/01/2015 8:12:42] OP: bro cant get into acc now... -.-
[28/01/2015 8:33:39] ..|..: yeah u cant withdraw we send to you

how much did u want
[28/01/2015 8:39:25] OP: all seems so sketchy.. ;/ everytime we want to withdraw we gotta do it through u? and u send to us on skrill? o.O
(this is a stake and you get a sketchy feeling because you can't snap withdraw money thats not yours?)



dont tell anyone but ill start you guys at 80/20 because you really seem to need it and i want to undo the **** zima put you through with that dumb 25nl stars stake
[28/01/2015 8:44:00] ..|..: dont even give that to my real life friends
[28/01/2015 8:45:05] ..|..: so basically its like you're playing in USD with 100%
[28/01/2015 8:46:06] OP: mm ok
[28/01/2015 8:46:15] OP: so ur taking 20% of eveyr cashout?
[28/01/2015 8:46:30] ..|..: of profit
[28/01/2015 8:46:47] ..|..: wont take it everytime u cash out
[28/01/2015 8:47:16] ..|..: hmm ok
[28/01/2015 8:47:38] ..|..: so 208 euro of that tourney is yours
[28/01/2015 8:48:30] ..|..: and your 35% of rakeback is 100% yours
[28/01/2015 8:48:53] ..|..: play 100k~ hand of nl10 and you get 350 euros
[28/01/2015 8:50:18] OP: we only getting 35% rb?

sent you 3 cashouts in 2 weeks~?

Was offering to help you guys move up.

Im such a bad guy. After the last withdrawal you snap posted that you were trying to run it up on stars to play the "games you want". How does that make sense, you were playing 10-20x higher than the 50cent tourneys and the euro convert to USD makes it so you were playing at 100% profit rate(a 100 euro win would bring you 100 USD~ as your cut)

This is what you get for helping people who have 100$ to their name. They'd rather withdraw 50$ get drunk 2 weeks and lose the rest of profits on stars than to get the help they need.

Dude, they did not try to scam you or to steal from you. There is no reason to post convos like this, this is very unprofessional of you as a staker,and I'm not sure what you at tying to prove except they you are some kind of white Knight.

dude, you offered a golden site with 100% fishes and all the traffic we could hope for, what did we get? the standard **** plus what? we played on somebody elses account, any cash out was done via check from you, what we did was illegal, what you are is a joke, you are in the wrong and considering all the effort you went through to get us on your ****ty ****e i cant belive the outcome....

i dont know where you learned to read but they are the ones calling me a con artist when i offered them the deal of a lifetime for the situation they are in and all i wanted is them to take this a bit more seriously, instead all i got is whine about the terms, i ton of withdrawal requests and 2 players that played 90% of their volume on an other site under their own money for much smaller stakes.

I was sort of ok with the low volume but then they started talking about being busto on here when they had rolls under me that they could get paid their rakeback even if they lost a bit as long as they played enough. Then talking about prop-bets/staking etc etc and also the other night saw them grinding a bunch of 50cent tourneys on stars and 2nl the other day..

All i was hoping for long term was to bring them to 25nl and profit on their 10k hand a day through rakeback at 25nl. It could of been done in 1month. Both party would of made decent money. They could of left the stake and gotten more rakeback at that point.


Let's not forget that they tried to withdraw money from a stake account without asking first. That's why non-stars stakes are done on controlled accounts. No people leaving with money that isnt theirs.

starts with the dude raving about multi tabling and rakeback, we tell the guy fk random software cant multi table on that and the rb aint worth it unless serious volume.....

only to find out dude comes back with 80/20 on profits and 35%rb (35 for us, fk knows what they was gona take)( special deal?!?!)(good 1) xx

+1, completely unnecessary posts, I don't see the bros being in the wrong in any way.
Doesn't really sound like you were trying to help, sounds more like you are somekind of affiliate to the site and had strong self-interest in them playing on your site. Just guessing tho.

and you'll get help to beat it better and like i said
[14/01/2015 12:07:56] ..|..: as long as you dont sit there open shoving like a tard you can withdraw your rakeback even if you are down a bit

U are a ***** joke i cant believe it, u made some money from us and now we dont want anything to do with u. go our seperate ways. ur sketchy as ****, dont post in our thread again...

withdraw our RB that u decide we get... good job..

Dont really care about all this problem, just want to wish you both gl on rebuilding your game and your confidence back to where it once was.

No matter what happens (I know youll get everything back up again tho) you already lived the dream that most of us wish and never could, thats an achievement for life!

Vamooooooooooooooo

Spot on.

ok so thats a lie, what are you donig? do i need to submit proof to get us both banned because im so tiled your such a ****?

You have 100$ to your name

You expect someone to give you each 350 euros or 750 euros depending on what you wanted to play for 0% profit and all the rakeback? you get 15% on stars at your VIP level.

You can't multitable? i 16 tabled that site. Tons of others mass table it.

Jesus man, i was never gonna make more than my electricity bill from you guys

Please just stop ****ing posting in our thread, we are done.

How do you find out that you cant withdraw because its not your skrill account when there's no way to see your skrill account?. Only way is to request a withdrawal and the system tells you that you have used the wrong skrill account.

Which site/network are you talking about guys?

Wow... just wow

Wow is not an answer nor a question.

You tried to withdraw yourself before asking me about it. I didnt even care a bit because i knew this was a risk. This is why i would not stake unknown(i rarely stake unknowns) under their own account.

btw if you read about stakes a bit you'll learn that rakeback isnt paid when there is loss. Me offering it is a thing that NEVER happens.

can a mod plese delate this guys posts and ban him from the thread?

u made a profit from us, now just ****ing leave it