take the bet or shut the **** up you pussy boy.

hey you **** boy. You contacted me cuz you saw my thread. You was clearly what graphs I have and what limits I want staking for!
Why do you waste my time and call me a liar is beyond me. You are a SCAMMER and a LIAR ! If the graphs posted in the thread are no enough and you don't believe me for my history which was posted as an opening statement in my thread then why the **** are you PMing me??????????

If you can't bet then you are not sure that I lied and you already stated that I am 100% liar... so you are a the LIAR! Formmadjo may have 70 IQ and mental capability of a smelly sock. But you sir are even worst.

Frommadjo being total ****** is nothing new to me. This forum is full of uneducated, weak mind and terrible at poker people!

I hope none of you weak minded people will ever talk to me.

Bobo is pretty unintelligent person and I could destroy his weak debating skills in 5 min skype chat.

Monteroy does not have the half of my poker skills and working ethics. While I am crunching pio solver numbers on the daily bases he ****s his horses and hides his results from one of the easiest formats in poker.

Fishesh like you can't even step to me. So give it up noobs!

p.s. Bobo you little peasant. I was kind enough to give 50% of my winnings!
As a cash game player I would never really need staking. How can you moderate a poker forum and not get this simple dynamic??? Answer if you have any guts left.

Finally if any of you cared and had any deductive skills- you would all agree that if Arkaiz does not take the bet nor apologize his reputation must suffer...

I do not have respect for people who have no respect for themselves! I was totally honest in my thread and Arkaiz contacts me to ask questions that are VERY clearly explained in the thread. As for those who comment but don't care... well peasants are going to peasant, pretty standard imo.

Arkaitz is a "scammer" - liar.

1. He contacted me out of the blue asking to stake me. His pm was: "send skype 4bb 100z GL"...
2. He showed me doctored graphs and talked very weird.
3. He was abusive and cruel to a cancer survivor (me). He asked me to send hospital bills to prove my story!
4. He then go and contact moderators and people who where staking me before, to tell them that I am not trust worthy!
5. He contacted Orange who was staking me for few days, on very bad terms for me and made sure that Orange will close my "seeking stake" thread.

6. I have been very clear in my "seeking stakes" thread on what limits I like to play, why I will like to have a partner on my journey to low-stakes and what graphs I have.


in short:

He asked me for audits from before 6 years ago, hospital bills, called me a liar, attacking my integrity on a public forum and claimed that I lied about graphs and history. Arkaitz claims he is doing great at poker but he wasted hours to contact people who did business with me and tried to make me look bad. He made sure my thread is closed and claimed that he is 100% sure that I lied about everything I said!

To people who respect logic and common sense>

I offered $500 bet that I can prove my health issues. He can apologize or take bet. My integrity has been under siege and I see people like Bobo and Orange (mods) don't give a **** about this. Kind of sad but expected from what I saw from them in past years. Not really the kind people who would defend the weak and unprivileged ...
This forum is for the recreational player, the micro stakes beginner and the poker pro. We have the right of a fair trial and the right to defend our dignity!

Arkaitz you can take the bet or apologize!

reading these 2 argue gives me a headache

No kidding, its hard to even figure out which is which, and in the end who really cares. They do seem happy together at least in a weird way.


I am pretty sure you do not need to worry about anyone wanting to talk to you much in the future, although you do have this thread to have fun with your special playmate for as long as you both like.

Only this guy could pull off that routine (for entertainment value) that you are trying to copy (as a debating tactic) for real.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=iraqi...HaDnBzkQsAQIGg


Weird comment as my results are not hidden at all. No idea what you are even talking about as you can see my Pokerstars results on sharkscope and OPR (though the O8 and Razz cash games I played are not tracked anywhere as far as I know, if they are I have not "hidden" them). I have a lot of older cash game play on places like the Cryptologic network, and a bunch of Party skins that no longer exist, but not sure what that would matter as I still am not sure what your issue is. Regardless, if you play regularly then your skill as a player is certainly better than mine as I have not played regularly in years, and my poker play was never meaningful to me as a form of income.

Anyway, you just seem angry without being relevant, and unfortunately that's a rather dull combination, so I will happily leave you to your little thread to play with your special friend and have as many tantrums as you like toward whomever you choose.

All the best.

@ Monteroy I am far from angry. I am actually happy that I spotted the scammer and helped the community to improve in this regard.

I acted out of my courage so I am relevant. The games I play now automatically make me a sucker. I had really tough luck in life but I am willing to stand my ground when I am right.
I fight for all the people who are abused on the daily bases in this forum.

I have a negative feedback thread because I did not want to destroy a man who was already on his downfall. I think this speaks a ton about my character and moral outlook.

can you explain how arkaitz is a scammer . did he want you to send him money?

Odds are nobody was going to do business with either of you anyway in the future, so I am not quite sure how you changed that, but I suppose making everyone fully aware of why people should avoid both of you does add some value to the community, so I kind of agree with you.

Congrats on believing that you are a champion for the masses, always vigilant in fighting the good fight in your mind. You have a huge fan in yourself, on that I do not dispute, and as I will not click this thread again I certainly hope you have a fun journey on your mission within this thread, though try to not clutter the other threads with it in future. Thanks in advance.

All the best.

Assuming for the sake of argument that these two strange birds are actually different people, can anyone figure out which one is the accused scammer, and which one is the accuser? Or are they each accusing the other of scamming?

And has anyone been able to extract the essence of the dispute from their cesspool of verbal sewage?

Please "replay" and "ellaborate."

Um...WTF are you talking about?

Hello

After i posted what happened and i tried to post it in the most resumed and possible educated way he has made 5 or 6 posts where he shows clearly what he is .
Complete illusional and verbal abuse of the lowest order.

What is it that you (MODs) dont understand ????

I mean its in front of your eyes , can u PLEASE ASK me what are your doubts ?

I will repeat my post , so please read this CAREFULLy and ask away if u have doubts .




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I will try to make a resumed post of what happened.


I contact this guy and we start talking about staking
He tells me :

1 - He has no graphs
2 - He had Cancer (lots of expenses etc)
3 - He was Big winner in 2011 and managed to win more than 50k

At the same exact time i speak with him i make a search with his username in 2+2
and get this :

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=3158

I think :

Wins 50k in 2011 , has no graphs , says he had huge health problem = lots of expenses and
has a post where hes accused of being a scammer , only thing he has is a nl5 graph (2016)
i cannot believe him because he doesnt seem credible

At this moment i say in a very educated manner , i cannot believe him
and ask for proofs of what he says

He then goes on to say he was the one scammed by the staker + talks about other things
wich where irrelevant like he had a pretty high IQ wich i think its completely clear by
the level he plays today and the logic and ellaborate posts he produces .

At this point i see im losing my time . I just say if you want to present proof or not
its up to you i have to move on

I didnt insult him or was rude to him , the chat conversation has reference to coaches
whom i work with and they dont have ANYTHING to do with this , apart from that i dont see
any problem in posting it as long as names are edited

He was rude and childish in the end , so he WAS THE ONE DOING PRECISELY WHAT IM BEING ACCUSED OF
and the skype chat can show that clearly . I blocked him in the end of the conversation.

He has so far made 10 or more posts of complete derailing with strange observations wich are not
related to this.


Today he sent me a msg wich says

"I told you $500 bet with me that I can show you proof of my sickness" ..."Pussy"

This shows the high level IQ of person + mature individual he is :

He doesnt understand there is a context

He doesnt understand the fact i dont think hes credible doesnt mean i want to bet on that subject

He doesnt understand at this point hes someone with whom i have no interest in losing more time

He doesnt understand he is the one who needs Staking not me so he should show emotional control
and seriousness in a public site

He doesnt understand basic rules of education


PS: I dont have to proof him anything as hes irrelevant to me i can post the 2 graphs i posted in
the skype chat in order for MODS to see (and i can in private tell who is the player )
I work with HS players and nl100+ players wich are crushing the game .



I see two MODs posted here so please tell me how did i treated horribly this kid ?



I will take a series of measures asap like sending my 195 Cash Player contacts a resumed version of what happened , at some point enough is enough .

This guy posted this :

At Frommagio

Formmadjo may have 70 IQ and mental capability of a smelly sock. But you sir are even worst.

Frommadjo being total ****** is nothing new to me. This forum is full of uneducated, weak mind and terrible at poker people!


At bobo :

Bobo you little peasant. I was kind enough to give 50% of my winnings!
As a cash game player I would never really need staking. How can you moderate a poker forum and not get this simple dynamic??? Answer if you have any guts left.


At Monteroy:


Monteroy does not have the half of my poker skills and working ethics. While I am crunching pio solver numbers on the daily bases he ****s his horses and hides his results from one of the easiest formats in poker



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If u guys STILL dont understand whats happening please shoot away questions , im patient...

Were you staking him and didn't even know it? lol

Reckon this needs to just be closed as neither is making any sense nor posting any actual, hard evidence.

@arkaitz whats the point u want to get proof of if he had cancer or not? Its completely doesnt matter. And if u dont trust him, then move on and get over it. No one force u to stake that guy. If u think he isnt honest then dont stake. Because u didnt trust him doesnt mean someone else got same opinion as you. All investors can decide if they believe the story or not. And to the other guy, u really need to work on your manner. Such childish acting and insults doesnt help to defend yourself as well. This thread should be closed, becaused both are not able to bring up any evidence or smth similar.

Arkaitz finally you made some clear sense your last 2 posts.
chat logs definitely help your cause if this guy persists post them

Arkaitz please make a resumed post in the most possibly educated way and ellaborate these illusions.

Here are some doubts that you can CAREFULLy answer. Did you approach reziduerz first with strange questions to scam him? Or did he approach you with strange answers to scam you? Can you proof that you two are not the same person even though you talk the same ?

Please proof this and show a context. Please post the educated chat logs witch tell the proofs. PLEASE ANSWER your doubts.

Please think on the logic of what you wrote.

I approach him in order to stake him how can i scam him ???

I will be the one giving him money to play , please read this :

His answer after i confronted him with the fact he was being accused of scam in the 2+2 negative thread some years ago

He then goes on to say he was the one scammed by the staker + talks about other things
wich where irrelevant like he had a pretty high IQ

This illogical behaviour is what caracterizes him , do i really need to explain that a staker cannot scam anyone unless he wants to be staked by the horse
wich would be quite weird ??

Perhaps they're not the same person. It could be two different scammers, each out looking for marks, who found each other and then tried to scam each another. Neither would be willing to post the logs obviously.

reziduer you little pheasant post the logs or admit to being scamer. Arkzaitz won't do it you won't either

Imagine someone writes

Frommagio you are a scammer !

Should i assume you are a scammer because someone writes that ?

Or should i try to understand why are you a scammer ?

I just wrote about that in a very direct and simplified manner , i dont understand how can you miss out that he insults with no logic and makes up
weird things however you dont ask what doubts you have .

About skype logs my only problem is that they contain references to coaches but if anyone wants to see those in share screen skype let me know


Also if you dont see skype chat in a shared screen = no edit

How can u know the pasted skype chat is true ???

Arkaitz - Let me tell you the cold, hard truth. Nobody here can tell who is at fault. Neither of you has explained your position clearly or logically. Anyone who reads this thread will stay far away from both of you.

You keep wondering why nobody raises questions about their doubts. It's because none of us can tell what you two crazy guys are talking about. Doubts? We can barely tell who is who!

You probably should not post the chat logs. The continuing argument would be fun to read, but it won't go well for either of you.

Skype chat logs can be easily edited , the only way i can remember of doing it serioulsy
is doing a share screen in skype

I already offered that so i cant do more .

This guy who you cant tell if hes right or not wrote this about you (just go up in this thread to read it



At Frommagio:

Formmadjo may have 70 IQ and mental capability of a smelly sock. But you sir are even worst.

Frommadjo being total ****** is nothing new to me. This forum is full of uneducated, weak mind and terrible at poker people!

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However you still cant understand whats going on even when he insults you and calls you a ******.


Fair enough . i rest my case

gl

Rosetta stone to help decipher?

http://imgur.com/a/F5wiH