Fwiw I have offered him full refund for the 100r tournament and he can have whatever hh's he wants.

If you have bought action from me before and have a view on the situation I'm interested to hear your opinion . If you haven't I couldn't care less tbh but enjoy trolling away If you've nothing better to do with your time. Nice weather out there ( where I am anyway) at the moment so why don't you do something productive with your time.

Whether or not you actually are a moron please refrain from acting like one in this thread, thanks.

Only person trolling here is you. If your goal is to ensure people don't want to invest in you ever again carry on.

You actually are a moron, I don't give a f what you think ban me from this shythole.

Well since you asked... Here are the cliffs of the last time I staked Dan.

-We agree on two week stake for Double Guarantee week on FT about a year ago. I think it was 60/40 my favor.
-I ship Dan around 4k to start with. I believe I had to send him a little more after a few days. Then he went on a heater and was up 10-12k.
-We had become friendly and he asked me if we could chop up some of the profits. I told him I really was a newbie when it comes to staking people and didnt know what he meant. I said he'd send me 1.5k and he'd take 1.5k. After a while he talked me into it. I figured he was broke and needed some money now so I said ok.
-Dan then went on a downswing and had lost most of the roll by the next to last day of the stake. He needed some more money for the last Sun. he told me. I told him that it didn't seem right to me that he was up 1.5k and I was down over 2k. He said, Well you agreed to that and he was right.
-It was more or less he attitude in our conversation that really pissed me off. He came across as furious with me b/c I didn't want to reload him for the last Sun. He took jabs at me in IM and just acted like a douche. Shortly after that BF happened and he would even get on IM just to remind how it must suck living in the U.S right now.

Basically Dan is a dickhead and I would never stake him again. I have seen in some of his threads where he acts like he could care less but I always figured if people want to keep investing in him then that is up to them. In no way am I saying Dan scammed b/c he didnt, but I did feel like he kinda took advantage of me since I was new to staking. He is with out question very unprofessional to say the least.

Yeah, this.

Dan has decided today to give off the image of an idiot who only cares about money and idiots don't get to use the Marketplace. So his Marketplace Approval has been removed. He can reapply no earlier than 6 months from today, the 24th of November. Maybe he will have grown up by then. He seems incapable of acting like an adult or responding in any way befitting someone who expects to get thousands of dollars from investors so has ruined his chances of that happening here for at least the next while. While not outright scammy he reeks of dishonesty and what seems like angle shooting at the very least from the two posters who have posted about him today.

good choice imo. i just thought of it again and went through the facts. actually at this point im very certain he did this intentionally.

as far as i remember the 215 shootout and the 215³ were played on 2 different days, not to mention the 215 6max.

in other words, how likely is it that you miss 3 events on 3 different days not noticing and not telling the backer? rigth, very unlikely. it can happen one time but 3 times ?

another thing that makes it even more unlikely is that on sunday he had been pre-regged for the 215 6max AND the 1k-scoop-ME which started a few hours later.

so how can you come online being regged already for the 1k and at this point forget you had been regged for the 6max and again not tell me?

combined chances of that are somewhere between 0 and 1% depending on how ******ed some1 can be.

now if u think of all that and ask yourself how likely it is that when hes making the tally he will still not remember any of that i think the answere becomes clear: yes hes done it on purpose.


he knew i wasnt around much, i barely played these days and i had, for like the 2 last weeks of scoop not been in touch with him at all.

im sure had he won big he wouldve given me my share but im also sure that in this scenario he had just seen an easy way to make some extra money which is pathetic.

his reaction here is another story completely.

If that's really what you want, it can be arranged. But before that, I'm curious about the post report you sent about this:

So when you report that post with the message "Expect legal action", who is that addressed to? If it's to beastjr, he can't see it. If it's to 2+2, LOL. Legal action over what? Seeing that someone posted something that makes you look bad and not instantly deleting it even though we have no idea whether it's true or not? If you are disputing what he says in some way, feel free to post about it here. We have no idea what actually happened, so we welcome your side of the story.

I can assure what I posted is true. I could be off on the #'s slightly since this was a year ago but they are pretty close.

Here is Dan's last 4 threads where he sold action. Every single one the investors come into the thread asking for updates or if there is any refunds, once again proving that people who invest in him aren't much of a priority.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/16...63/?highlight=

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/16...37/?highlight=

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/16...41/?highlight=

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/16...04/?highlight=

I asked for my account to be closed from 2p2, I want nothing to do with this site. So please close my account like I asked.

And most of these investors reinvested...

16 months later... lol. You did not voice this opinion at all, nice jumping on the bandwagon.
Do I owe you any money? Tell me how much. I want to be done with you idiots for once and for all.

I just want people to have full clarity of this incident.

All I have done is: admitted I made a mistake, rectified the error by sending the missing $600, offered full refund of the 100r which OP was unhappy with. This was met with people flaming at me. From then all I can do is defend myself (when moderators from the site call me an idiot & moron/ allow me to be called a dickhead from a poster), like I always will.

not like u had any other options to put yourself into a better spot. theres no reason to believe that what ure saying is true. imo the way it looks u had just seen a good chance to make me pay for your mistake and on top of that u were willing to extract some extra money from the staking because u felt save doing so. like i posted above, u not noticing u were regged / blinded out in 3 tournaments on 3 different days is very unlikely, combined with the other unlikely factors its nearly impossible u couldnt have known. what uve done is just pathetic.

and i think the mentality that u have that made u do this is the same mentality that made you waste 1k$ in the 109r - you simply **** on other ppl and their money.

Only thing I can condlude from this debacle is that MTTgrinder is only 18 years old and completely void of real life experience.

Hopefully he matures from the level he is currently at.

Gl sir.

Is that offer still on the table?

Well you yourself said if anyone has invested in me has an opinion then please say so. I was agreeing with ReadonYou that you are very unprofessional and childish. The fact the you charged someone for tourneys u blinded out of says it all.

I never said you owed my anything. I said you took advantage of me or at least thats the way I feel. I staked you, you ended up a couple thousand and I ended up down a couple thousand, then you acted like a 5 year old cause I wouldn't give you more money. I guess I'm an idiot for not still staking you.

Not being funny, but that story is ****ing gross and the guy should def owe you the money from that staking venture. I don't care if it happened x years ago or that you were inexperienced, it's a pretty sick way to be taken advantage of and says more for msmttgrinder lack of integrity... if it went down like you say it did then there's really no defensible line from him.

Agreed. If you profit split to 'help him out' and then he went negative that goes to makeup or he owes it to you back. Proper deals do not end with the horse floating and the backer sinking.

Yes always has been.

Nobody has been charged anything, nobody has lost any equity. They are the facts.

Well that's not the agreement that was made. I'll happily send back $1500 even though I don't know how true this guys figures are. It was a no makeup deal and that was incorporated in the cut I was playing for.

alright then go ahead and send again i wont ship it back this time! will confirm here when received.

$807.20 sent for full refund of the $109r.

I still do not know how you can be sure I did this intentionally. The truth is I was out from early Friday, at a pokerstars meal on Friday evening then straight out all saturday for big day of sport, then slept through the 6max $215 on Sunday. I then totally forgot to include these missed tournaments as refunds, and yes thats the truth.
Ask yourself why I would try and scam you for $600 to cause all this mess. I just wouldn't, makes no sense.

These are the facts

I staked you
You begged me for a "chop of profits"
I agreed in order to help you out b/c that's what kind of person I am
After you were up I even agreed to change the profit split from 60/40 to 50/50 b/c once again, I am not greedy and was trying to help you out.
You lost all the $ you were up during the stake with a day left.
You then got pissed and acted very childish toward me b/c I didnt want to send you more money.
You later got on IM just to talk trash to me.

Now I agreed to the above and never said you technically owe me anything. I just think you are selfish and a dik. If I was in your situation I would have used the $1,500 I was up towards the stake on the last Sunday. At the very least I wouldn't act like a baby towards someone who was helping me. Whether it was agreed upon or not I wouldnt feel right being up 1,500 while me backer was down a couple thousand. You seemed to have no problem with it. That is the difference in us I guess.

Just came on here to post that yes you are not a great person, not to collect.

I honestly cannot confirm if any of your "facts" are true or not. If you felt taken advantage of 16months ago I apologise, those were not my intentions. I'm now offering you $1500 from what you remember us chopping out for if you want it tell me where to send.