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11-06-2016 , 12:04 PM
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11-06-2016 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by msusyr24-new
I have no idea what was paid back. It's added to makeup, we don't have separate loan/rolling numbers.
This is quite important information surely you keep records? If any of the total amount is made up of loans then that should be separate from the makeup lost on the tables. Despite your poor conduct and Robs arrogance (surprised his head fits through any door he goes through) you can expect a offer of settlement in a day or 2 to put a end to this ****show and move on.

Feel free to apologise for calling me cancerous but i wont hold it against you i realise pocarr is seeing diminished returns year on year and the pressure is getting to you but will keep my correspondence professional.

PS. My grammar and spelling isn't the best your right i was always more a numbers and knowledge guy guess thats why i play poker and im not a english professor.

Edit

Yes it really is Rob as i back up my claims with facts not star trek gifs..

Be interested in a poll who acted the most professional out of myself, you and Alex. You were both reduced to personal insults when you had zero answer for the truth so keep on doing that its a real good look for you.

Last edited by U shove i call; 11-06-2016 at 01:41 PM. Reason: in response to another moronic post.
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11-06-2016 , 01:32 PM
Very professional
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11-06-2016 , 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RTinnion
Ok was just confirming it's the same debate as always. See you all again in a few months.

*Bangs Gavel*
keep being apart of a business that is run very unethically and quite shady overall and we will see you in less then a month
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11-06-2016 , 01:41 PM
We have a new case potentially opening up in 4.5 hours, pm me if you want the details to get ahead of the curve on this one.
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11-06-2016 , 01:48 PM
Jesus Christ lads cut out the ****. Let's get this thread back to it's original intended purpose.
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11-06-2016 , 02:21 PM
It's probably a bit of a stretch lol, but has anyone ever thought of setting up a poker union? People that can adjudicate on both sides of the fence?
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11-06-2016 , 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by RTinnion
Ok was just confirming it's the same debate as always. See you all again in a few months.

*Bangs Gavel*
No it is not the same debate as always. Stop cherry picking posts.

This time the debate is "if the horse quit poker, how much MU he owes?"

The site is not the debate, it is simply wrong to put that up.
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11-06-2016 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by UPAY4DINNER
Jesus Christ lads cut out the ****. Let's get this thread back to it's original intended purpose.
I have asked to mods to merge the posts into a new Pocarr Negative Feedback thread.
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11-06-2016 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by RTinnion
Very professional
you do come across as a huge bellend with a over inflated ego
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11-06-2016 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by msusyr24-new
We have "vamoo's" who speak better English than you do.
this is bullying ppl theres manys reasons ppl many not be great spellers you know and you just showed in here just why pocarr are the worst staking company in the world bad people skillz and bad business acumen and bad business practices people with over inflatted egos i personaly could'nt read or write untill i was 15 have poor spelling in general to see you a someone at the center of a business treating someone like this you personaly need to think about how your making your company come across with your bigotry and to a point snobbery and thinking you someone who CAN SPELL are better than someone who CANT everyone is equal no matter if they are richer better at writing better at maths or football everyone has things there good at or bad at so get off your high horse
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11-06-2016 , 05:08 PM
Ye agree with the above pointing out my poor english is pathetic when what im actually saying is totally destroying you and i was posting on my phone so grammar isn't a primary concern. Guess we all have to use the tools at our disposal don't we some of us use the truth while others take weak shots at things that have no relevance to the discussion.

Guess i will take a cheap shot and do some free advertising for you guys seeing as i don't run a business and have no standards to maintain in my public dealings.

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You big stables best hurry up i heard he is booked up till 2018 probably about the same time pocarr is run into the ground by bad decisions.

Yep you brought me down to your level congrats. Was fun though and as i said i don't have professional standards to maintain you do.

Last edited by U shove i call; 11-06-2016 at 05:19 PM.
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11-06-2016 , 05:10 PM
Excellent contributions, make these guys mods.
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11-06-2016 , 05:29 PM
Hey all its marcin123 just wanted to offer my thoughts and a solution to the issue under discussion.

Poker has become a game i no longer want to play having won alot of money and always struggled to maintain it. Pocarr want me to grind back $24k makeup in $33 freezeouts and below on party as my pokerstars account is currently locked and has been for several months. Even with how pocarr have acted and posting they wish to ruin my life for not paying them back the full makeup even after chopping over $300k with them i would like to put this business to rest.

I can offer to repay $6k at $400 a month first payment to be made within 7 days of acceptance so this whole ordeal will be finished in a year. Obviously i expect the thief website to be removed immediately as i now know your in breach of the law posting totally untrue claims its clear defamation of character.

Please post any replies in this thread, would prefer all agreements to be made in public and once you accept or decline the offer we can talk via email and organise the details.

Marcin.
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11-06-2016 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by marcin123
Hey all its marcin123 just wanted to offer my thoughts and a solution to the issue under discussion.

Poker has become a game i no longer want to play having won alot of money and always struggled to maintain it. Pocarr want me to grind back $24k makeup in $33 freezeouts and below on party as my pokerstars account is currently locked and has been for several months. Even with how pocarr have acted and posting they wish to ruin my life for not paying them back the full makeup even after chopping over $300k with them i would like to put this business to rest.

I can offer to repay $6k at $400 a month first payment to be made within 7 days of acceptance so this whole ordeal will be finished in a year. Obviously i expect the thief website to be removed immediately as i now know your in breach of the law posting totally untrue claims its clear defamation of character.

Please post any replies in this thread, would prefer all agreements to be made in public and once you accept or decline the offer we can talk via email and organise the details.

Marcin.

would advise speaking to a lawyer to see what legal actions you ahve should they chose to not take down the website.
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11-06-2016 , 06:03 PM
Hi Marcin,

Thank you for being cooperative.

The thief site came down earlier today, which we have replaced it with this one: http://www.donottrustmarcinmilde.com/. This will be removed as soon as you make the first payment, as you mentioned. It will go back up if payments are missed.

We understand it's a tough spot and also want it resolved. That being said $6k is an unacceptable compromise for us for the following reasons:
-You stole from us, yet we continued with you anyway
-We paid for sessions with Elliot ($1400)
- We gave you numerous months off.
-We gave you a loan of $1065 (you never cleared makeup after this loan)

We can accept a 60% ($14426.27) buyout at the proposed $400/month.

As we've said before, the previous profits are irrelevant, but can understand why you'd bring it up.

Glad we can settle this here.
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11-06-2016 , 06:58 PM
Actually can't believe how dumb you are. How is this site any more acceptable than the previous one when you reference this right at the top of the site.

xxxxxx xxxxx was staked by a group of investors at Pocarr to play specific online poker games. Both parties signed an agreement outlining expectations.

That agreement was null and void the day it was signed as i already proved to you so why do you think that gives you the right to post slander as a blackmail tactic? You need to have the law on your side to post sensitive information about people on the internet and you don't.

You stole from us, yet we continued with you anyway = thats pocarr decision and is a separate issue to this
-We paid for sessions with Elliot ($1400) - has as much relevance as the 300k past which you already deemed irrelevant
- We gave you numerous months off= same as above
-We gave you a loan of $1065 (you never cleared makeup after this loan) = a loan debt and an investment are fundamentally 2 differently things from an accounting point of view and hence a legal perspective, and its pocarrs fault for combining both

Kind of shocked you wouldn't accept $6k after all the crap you posted when you know full well if someone went after you with the law you may well end up with a huge fine and paying compensation.

Oh and you didn't block out the cats face.
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11-06-2016 , 07:10 PM
Will see what I can do about the cats face, apologies I wasn't aware that was an issue.
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11-06-2016 , 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RTinnion
Excellent contributions, make these guys mods.
are you really this arrogant i mean serious i hope i never have the misfortune of meeting you your a complete joke and need to grow up a bit and stop acting like a 10year old i mean your company bullies ppl and your arrogance is like school ground stuff man but you were prolly bullied at school and now you finaly have money you think this with your arrogance = you can now bully others and yes this is aimed solely at robert tinnion i hope you have the biggest down swing and go broke that would be karma
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11-06-2016 , 07:13 PM
<3

Blocking out the pictures you stole has no meaning anyway when you post a link to the facebook you stole them from. If he followed my advice you would get zero and legal proceedings against you but he seems to want to pay back a reasonable % god knows why so lucky you.

Your replies are pathetic rob refute a single thing i say if u disagree instead of making jokes but you clearly can't as you know you're in the wrong

Last edited by U shove i call; 11-06-2016 at 07:26 PM.
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11-06-2016 , 07:48 PM
I just don't feel like giving you the attention and/or respect you are so desperately searching for.

You know our stance on all matters, from here on out I feel it's between us and Marcin.

Go find another thread to fill with your drivel.
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11-06-2016 , 08:07 PM
Ok this whole situation is very stressful and would prefer to resolve this but 60% is clearly way to much to ask for.

Will propose $8k to be repaid at $400 a month you can even write up a contract stating i owe you $8k which i will sign so you have a real contract that has some substance.

In return if i choose to return to poker a year down the line which i don't plan to but if then you have no claim to the remaining makeup the debt is $8k period.

The new website comes down once you receive your first payment.

This is the last offer i am going to make so you can accept this or leave the site up and hear from a solicitor and get zero.

Marcin.
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11-06-2016 , 08:37 PM
Yeah we want this resolved ASAP also Marcin.

We will take $8k (33%) if you pay the full amount within the next week, and you can play poker however you want.

If we are doing a repayment plan the least we will go down to 50% ($12k), but this is the lowest we can go for such a lengthy repayment plan. Any lower sets a very bad precedent for our business.

On a side note, you guys are right that this hasn't been the right platform for my banter, and apologise to all for leading this thread astray. Backing 170 players with many rollers takes it's toll and i'm extremely numb to a lot of this given the amount of times we've had these same conversations. I thought i'd try a different approach, evidently that was the wrong approach, apologies.

Will keep it more on subject next time.

Last edited by RTinnion; 11-06-2016 at 08:44 PM.
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11-06-2016 , 08:53 PM
marcin should seek damages for libel
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11-06-2016 , 08:54 PM
Ok then i guess we don't have a agreement. Obviously i don't have $8k lying around and think thats a very fair amount and a reasonable timeframe to repay while working a normal job. If you are unwilling to accept that then thats on you.

I consider our agreement terminated and consider myself under no constraints not to play poker in the future if i decide to. I will be going to the citizens advice bureau and having a free consultation with a solicitor regarding the site and the original post on this site asap.

Marcin.

Last edited by marcin123; 11-06-2016 at 09:07 PM.
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