Where is your daughter? You are in no mental condition to care for a child.
You are obviously mentally ill.
Do you seriously think you have a remote chance to get hired by anyone who has read this thread?

i vote no

I have an idea. Let's fly Jeff up a pole and see who salutes.

We now return to our regularly scheduled insanity:

Again, I don't have a ton to say, but here are a few things just to be clear:

1. The truth is an absolute defense to slander. Having admitted to lying repeatedly and using the PS funds for something other than to pay me back, you admitted to the only two "slanders" I ever uttered; that you are a liar and a thief. Further, a debt that the party makes zero attempt to pay back is theft after a reasonable amount of time (because, and follow me closely here, they agreed to pay it back and didn't. If you borrow your neighbor's lawn mower and keep promising to return it but never do, you have stolen it, whether you initially had permission to use it or not).

The truth is a bitch. Deal with it.

2. You've referenced several times that there was some benefit to me considering the debt MU and assisting you forward, or however you want to phrase it. You also said something to the effect in a previous email that you were doing me a favor. So let me be completely clear here. You have cost me money. I have perceived no benefit from being involved with you, other than possibly some entertainment value to this thread. So please, for the love of God, stop implying that it would be to my benefit to continue to be involved in a stake with you on any level. The only person it could possibly benefit is you, and frankly, I have zero interest in doing any more favors for you.

3. I may be a terrible mod. I may not be very bright. I may be a complete fish at poker and at poker backing (the later is certainly true). All of that is completely irrelevant. You have admitted, repeatedly, to owing this money. So any of my failings have zero to do with the issue at hand.

4. As I have stated many times, I am willing to accept either the full amount I believe you owe, or we can go to arbitration, and I will accept whatever amount a neutral party determines is correct. Beyond that, I have no interest in accepting a settlement. You are free to try to roll the debt over to another backer, but let's be honest, the only way that happens is if you find someone even more inexperienced at poker staking than I am. Good luck with that.

5. The thread will remain until I am paid every penny I'm owed. Even then IDK that I'd ask to have it removed; maybe edited to include "resolved" in the title. I'll see when that miraculous day actually arrives.

This kid is a piece of work.

Change the thread title back, imo.

Oh, and I don't care/mind if it takes a year for you to pay me back.

One could argue that steady, consistent payments, even if small, could go a long way towards repairing your image.

If, you know, you cared what people on 2p2 thought. But then since I'm still a mod I guess that means you'll never log in again and we'll never find out. Mores the pity.

Can someone confirm if he has red line on his identity card?

x2

As many of you know in order to get a job or mod with 2p2 a photo must be submitted to Mat and Mason. Jeff has an amazing skill set but has difficulty posting pics so he asked me to post a pic of him of his behalf. Good luck Jeff.

Nicole:

Let's both stop freaking out. I'm sorry I lost contact with you but I've really had no money. I do admit I'm a compulsive liar, but I aint a theif. I was going to drop 900 of Merge money in your lap if you could have taken it, well before I did the audit. I actually did the audit later.

And I still love you to death, I"m sorry about the bickering. This is the 5th day I"ve been awake. I didn't sleep for 3 days.

You do have money coming to you but it's not that easy to figure out. You have to do a player audit because of the re-buys, and I wasn't in a condition to do it. I figured out that the total of the poker play is 985 not 900, some of it is makeup, but forget about MU ok. Let's work it out this way.

I truly thought for the last three years that you always had 500 in money in your account, I had no idea you had passed me more money than I passed you. I know now that I invented that scenario. I can see why you were pissed. But that doesn't make me a thief. And I reacted terribly.

I give you all of the action for all STT during the length of the stake, and MTTs up to 2/11. and everything for STTs after that, and we split it and I pay you all of it immediately or have a payment plan.

We are both getting crazy, I'm in a crazy place in my life, and it's been crazy since BF. I didn't even have a phone for awhile.

Let's just agree that that's fair. I know you don't want to take any more money from me that's not yours than I want to take of yours.

That way we do split whatever but I don't think it's as high as you think because you missed 2/24. I actually thought you made slightly more than what you thought but it's actually less. You played low variance and I think you might have broken close to even.

I honestly thought that it was all makeup tho when I looked at the numbers because I didn't have the transfer logs. I know I invented that scenario.

Let's not worry at all about MU but get the number right because like I said, it's complicated. You always have to have a closeout. I just now looked again at the numbers and I"m even wrong about 985 because like SA said, I played almost all re-buys. That puts the number at less than what you thought. I know you didn't actually lose money on the stake and I really and truly do owe you money after looking at the missing logs, but it's less than what you thought you made. You may have actually broken even. So I owe you between 420 and 985. It's somewhere in the middle. I had no intention of stealing from you because I was totally wrong about how much money you actually passed me, for whatever reason. My story on that is true.

I do owe you something and I just want to get it right so lets do the numbers and forget about everything else. Retroactively, you own all of my action for all STTs during the stake and all MTT action up to 2/11.

Once we figure out exactly what the number is, then we can do the repayment plan, and I will get you paid off. I know it was psychological that I kept the money but it's been killing my conscience and still is. Also, what people say about me might be true, and you have to help me change. You are my friend.

I will start paying you off. I'm sorry about these weird mood swings but I'm going bat **** insane and have been for 3 years.

Let's just do an audit on that. I'm really freaked out right now, because I really thought I only owed you a little bit of money and MU and I thought you would be excited and happy when I called you and you called me a thief and it really caught me off guard. I'm not a thief. It's possible I'm a deadbeat but when I have money, I pay.

I honestly and truly love you to death. I think I was going through such a trying time that I just shut down in my mind things I couldn't deal with. I should have contacted you well before. I'm sorry about that. But all this time I honestly thought I passed you more money than you passed me. We could have worked it out.

I can go play poker now if I want but I won't do that until all debts are settled with you. I can see why you think i'm a theif because I didn't contact you and whetever but that really isn't the case. I thought you still had investment in me as MU, but F the MU and lets find out exactly what I owe you.

By the way, I know I really need counseling bad. I've been so depressed for so long that anything i have to deal with that's stressful just freaks me out. I'm partially making you the villain when I owed you money for so long. I think you are a fine mod.

I don't want you de-modded. I've calmed down now. I know I'm the one in the wrong now. My emotions are playing tricks on me so I'm going from one extreme to another, but having your debt cleared and your friendship back is priority for me. I will even pay interest on the money that I've held for so long so it might be closer to the 900 you are owed. But lets just get it right and deal with it.

Please get a community member, maybe SA to check these numbers. I used an average when I computed the RBs before and I think I spent like 500 on it. It's possible that your profit on the stake isn't as high as you thought

Once we figure that out, I will pay out in full ok?

Jef

Jeff,

I don't know where you're getting your magic numbers from. I dispute your timeline in that, to the best of my recollection, I never dropped all MTT action.

I have no numbers or figures to go over with you. I have the transaction logs, which I have posted in full, and my own memory that the stake roll was officially $750 (after originally being $500, then bumped to $750 around the time of the last transfer) + $200 to cover the "loan". I see no complications in that. According to your own statements, time and time again, you had the full amount of the stake roll + loan in your PS account at the time of BF. Ergo that entire amount is what is owed. You haven't posted a single email or PM or other form of proof that even tells me where you are getting the numbers you keep bringing up (is it $285? $900? $985? I have no idea where you got any of these numbers, although at least the later two are close to my own recollection).

If you wish to have arbitration that's fine, but otherwise I consider the amount of the debt established. I have neither the time nor the inclination to get into some sort of fight again about the terms of the stake, considering neither one of us has any proof of the actual deal and in deference to the fact that both of our memories may be distorted due to the passage of time. If some brave soul wants to try to figure everything out they are welcome to try, and I'll answer any questions with that to help, but I can only go off my own memory, and I've already been completely honest with what I recall and what I don't.

You keep saying it's complicated. That's funny, because I don't remember it being at all complicated when we settled up weekly. After we determined the MU method, which yes, I freely admit I don't recall off hand (but I know damn well that I never knowingly agreed to allow withdrawals when the stake was still in MU), we never disagreed about the numbers. Not once, that I recall. Somehow the numbers got more and more complicated over the years. Yet oddly, I still remember the exact same figure even almost three years later - $950. The only one who can't seem to figure things out is you.

I am not freaking out in the slightest. If you want people, including me, to stop thinking of you as a thief, then make a payment plan, one you can afford within your life/budget, and start paying me. I don't know how it could be more simple than that.

All I keep thinking about is the phrase from Game of Thrones - words are wind. I literally have no idea what of the things you've said is fact or fiction anymore. So stop talking with your mouth and starting talking with your actions. You say you aren't a thief. Fine. Then pay me back my money.

I am still open to arbitration if you believe that the $950 figure is incorrect, and will abide by whatever decision a neutral party decrees.

Also, if/when payment commences, I would very much prefer an online method.

If not I'll have to set up something for mail.

So, the amount you originally quoted, then disputed, the confirmed as correct - You are now disputing again?

This is not news to anyone in this thread. Except maybe you. Perhaps in this brief moment of clarity you might reflect on the life choices you've made that put you in this spot and how to move forward productively - Honouring your debts would be a positive first step.

Jeff,

Get off the dope. Go to rehab if you can't quit on your own.

How old is Jeff Bennett?

Wow he is twisted. Schizophrenia? Dope? or both?

I think it's really, really important you get on this. There may well be some kind of no/low cost options available - you should look into it right away. You're not going to be making good decisions when you're in a bad place.

~$950 sounded right to me, and I have no idea where you're suddenly getting these different numbers from either. But it doesn't matter.

Here's the thing - you say you feel bad about this, and that you'd like to pay some interest. If that's the case, why are you trying to quibble over a hundred or two? I know that's a lot of money to you right now, but when you're talking about payment options that are going to stretch over 6 months+, that's a couple bucks a week. You're more than likely mistaken anyway; why not just make a plan based on the $950 and move on? Or worst case, make the plan and start paying, and get someone to look at the numbers while you pay. If you somehow find evidence that you only owe $700 and not $950, you'll just be done paying a couple months earlier!

And if this is a delay tactic, it's only going to buy you a few days anyway.

Make a plan based on the $950, start paying, and then either move on or have a look at the numbers. There's absolutely no justification for making RJ wait even a single day more while you do this. And you should be concentrating on your well-being anyway - start the payment plan, get some counselling, and life will get better.

No one else is concerned that this obviously disturbed depressed man is supposed to be taking care of his daughter who is probably 3 to 4 years old?
I think that kids well being is more important then $950.
I have read the entire thread and Jeff sounds like he is a very mentally sick man.
Please tell me you have one of your relatives helping you care for your child.

Mr Bennett,

like you I am the sole parent of a small child. I've been through some **** over the last four years that I wouldn't wish on anyone. What held me together was my daughter, I believe the most important role as a parent is to show her right from wrong and to lead by example. Do you think that is what you are doing here? I mean, it seems you have some issues, either:

a) mental illness
b) drug use problems
c) a mixture of both

None of that makes you a bad person, we all go through things that affect us a great deal but dude a lot of people are worse off than you. So you were left with a kid, so you had money taken from you, so you have an $11 p/h job...boo frigging hoo. Those are no excuse to be an *******, a liar and potentially a thief.

If this thread is a reflection on how you deal with life issues then I would recommend you take a good look at yourself. Do you want your child to grow up knowing this is how Dad deals with problems? Treat this as an opportunity, do the right thing and pay back the $950 you owe and stop trying to fudge the amount when it suits you. Believe me it will set you on the right path in other aspects of your life, and for the sake of your daughter
I hope you will.

Good luck

OK everyone I"m doing a full audit of this and I'm more right than I thought

Now I"m gonna get pissed again at RJ, coz I don't think she made any money. I'm going back and forth because she was so nice to begin, but she's held me over the coals and i'm getting the feeling she's trying to gank me too. She hounded me for the money over and over. She wanted the money right away after BF. Also I've pleaded with her to call me in emails to talk about it and she posts here instead. That makes me think she's got something to hide.

It's wierd coz she's such a good friend to talk to but I don't think she's square. I think she might be the scammer here, because it just never felt right that she wanted money after BF.

I can't even remember where the first 900 number came up. I think it was like a random guess of mine at some point, but she's clung to that number and a lot of the time while she was hounding me after BF. I think at some point, even in the email I sent her, I was just scared she was going to out me in 2p2 with "her thread", so I appeased her with 900, but I've never felt that was right. I honestly think that the zero I came up with the first time was right, maybe off by a few bux

I made 1500 on the stake for STTs which she had all the action for, but we got sliced and diced for the mTTs she covered

Now that I'm calm, I remember checking right after BF to see if she made any money, but I don't think she did.

I've been a mess for awhile now, hell I was on the street for 5 months but she lost a lot of money on the MTT portion. We were down a lot and she quit them and I grinded her out of it with STTs, and now that I'm auditing, it's very possible I don't owe her anything, because she dropped MTTs too early. I have emails indicating that she dropped MTTs earlier than I thought and didn't have action on 2 of my binks.

I've asked for a poker player audit, I'm going to do a complete and full audit on this but I don't think the 985 is right anymore. I was never in a condition to do the audit, until now but she might actually be owed nothing.

Just to give you an idea, I personally only made 785 over the life of the stake, but I had at least one and possibly 2 binks in MTTs on my own. Also, I lost money in cash that she was covering

We also bought action in MP and lost and I think she covered that too

I've requested a player audit and I'm doing some research but I can tell you for sure that during the whole 4 months of poker I only made 785 but I binked one on my own for 850 and possibly another one for 933. I know she had action on the one I binked for 1200+ because I personally remember that score but I know for a fact and can show from an early email that I was in MU 1K from MTTs early in the stake.

She wanted me to just grind her out of that MU mess with just STTs and I played really well in STTs and got her out but she can't possibly be up as much as she thinks because I was only up 785 for the stake and I know I hit the 850 on my own, I remember consoling her the next day about it

When i contacted her a few days ago she's still clinging to the 900 number and she won't let go of it. I'm not sure where she got it but I think she just glommed onto a guess I made just after BF and if I don't pay her that she will extort me but there is no possible way I owe her 985 now that I've looked at the numbers

Translation - "I've gone back through the numbers and found a way to lowball the amount even more".

I don't see how anyone would offer you staking after your bipolar episodes in this thread. The only staking you should receive is for medical treatment.

Here is an email dated January 10

Here she references our MU deal which even if she's owed money, she should stick to.

Remember that I have leverage in the negotiations because she asked me to play for her, so my condition was the 50-100 cashouts. That is referenced here as well.

So even if I do owe her something, there is still make up on this account

And here is possibly where she quit MTTs. My gut feeling is that she wasn't in on 2 of my MTT binks, because this email is dated before the 733 cash. This email is date Jan 19.

I'm beginning to think that she dropped MTTs when I was in MU of 1K and I grinded her back to even. If that's the case, she would still have MU but no cash, but that doesn't count the money I lost in cash and the money we lost in the MP