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09-15-2015 , 11:05 PM
Sue for what? As far as im aware ur not in the USA where "sueing" is the norm and how da *** u gunna pay a lawyer? legal aid aint gunna cover it..
09-16-2015 , 10:35 AM
Many questions hmm i will try to answer all, some posts in this thread are not mine for example that in german and some other short ones where "i" mess around. The hacker had access to most of my accounts I didnt say that he hacked my pokerstars acc but he provided scans of my id to annoy me when my acc was freezed in addition he wrote a lot other weird things like closing my skrill etc. Crazy because i involved lawyers to help me in this case or my statements? I dont see any reason to post other off topic stuff even i like to polarize. I made the most posts myself I wont deny it from Fiktenasch 2+2 acc but basically about the staking issue. On a german forum ps.de where I tried to sell a package someone created a new acc called "Fiktenaschgay" and trolled my thread too. I had a trojan virus who phished all passwords it really tilted me when I find out that my skyplogs txt were changed and some other strange activities like posting or sending emails. My lawyers preparing a reminder for the actions been made against me whoever is responsible for that. About pocarr its simple, the things they wrote here and on the site are not true. In addition they involved google and youtube to publish and achieve greater quantity with their statements, the only thing i regret that i recorded the statement what was part of the deal but never allowed them to publish it anywhere. Just listen what I say there "I played offstake before and broke the contract" compare my speech with the contract details so what do you see? The site was uploaded by alex/rob arbitrarily and this will have consequences im not interested anymore to waste my time here. They are reponsible for their actions no other backer was that malicious, and uploaded a site or made those statements. Now i have trouble to find a good deal and been called as thief on the www good job. Here is a screen from the conversation with alex and the prove that i was permitted to play offstakes on my own, the doc-schedule and that rakeback is mine.

http://imgur.com/xqP6Ht3

Peace
09-16-2015 , 11:32 AM
I really wish you'd stop saying saying freezed on both your accounts.
09-16-2015 , 12:11 PM
also, it'd be nice if the next hacker could use paragraphs
09-16-2015 , 02:29 PM
Could you and and your hacker friend please find someone who speaks English? Nobody can understand your posts.
09-16-2015 , 07:02 PM
just lol
09-21-2015 , 12:22 AM
Earlier in this thread, Finkentasch said that he had come to an agreement with his backers, including "pocarr/apa and dimi/omyg0t/random btn". So now that things are quiet, does that mean that it's all been resolved?

Konstantin, who made that statement? Was that you or was it the hacker? The good Finkentasch or the bad Finkentanasch?

Backers, has this been resolved?
09-21-2015 , 06:31 AM
i made this statement, everything is fine with apa and dimi we have an agreement just troublesome with alex and rob. why are you so interested frommagio?
09-21-2015 , 06:47 AM
So then you have started sending money to pay back Alex and Rob?

Why am I interested? It's as fascinating as a good novel.
09-21-2015 , 07:35 AM
No I didnt start pay them back until they find an agreement with me. In contrast to a good novel this is truth and not just a ficitonal story.
09-21-2015 , 05:07 PM
Well, the part about two Finkentasch accounts certainly seems to be a fictional story.
09-28-2015 , 06:40 PM
I'd like to give a positive update to this thread.

Konstantin has sent us the first part of a multi-part repayment plan. We have removed his website and feel he has every intention to make this right.

I will update more as this progresses whether that be positive or negative, but as of right now he's repaying and things look very positive.
10-04-2015 , 10:43 AM
Just chiming in to say that in my opinion make up should not exist at all in the staking business. Its an investment in which by the general rules the staking companies can not lose, they can either win or return their initial investment as make up. Staking companies that expect 100% make up from their horses to be repaid once the make up is too large and staker decides to drop the horse are basically free rolling their horses. Its a terrible deal for staked horses and no wonder the risk of scam is so high.

To give example its like me and my friend (does not have to be a friend) are going to casino and i offered him a deal that i give him 500$ to play with and whatever he wins we split 50/50 but if he loses he owes me 500$ in 3 days. Or staking for a tournament and expecting a full refund if no score.
This is the kind of proposition staking companies are offering and this is why this model can work in very limited group of players, and very limited spectrum of games.

Last edited by bombonca; 10-04-2015 at 10:50 AM. Reason: imo
10-04-2015 , 10:52 AM
you are very misinformed about the way large-volume staking deals are done.

there is no "you are too deep in makeup so imma drop you and you have to pay me back" clause.

also there is a huge difference between a one off casino stake and a long term MTT stake.

could go on but i hope you will have a think
10-04-2015 , 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Asjbaaaf
you are very misinformed about the way large-volume staking deals are done.

there is no "you are too deep in makeup so imma drop you and you have to pay me back" clause.
also there is a huge difference between a one off casino stake and a long term MTT stake.

could go on but i hope you will have a think
What happens when staker does not want to invest in horse anymore because he is losing too much money and the horse is not breaking any rules?
10-04-2015 , 11:00 AM
backer would sell makeup to another backer or drop the horse completely. there are alot of different situations that could arise and am grindin atm so cant have a huge convo. but your first post was very inaccurate
10-04-2015 , 11:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Asjbaaaf
backer would sell makeup to another backer or drop the horse completely. there are alot of different situations that could arise and am grindin atm so cant have a huge convo. but your first post was very inaccurate
By this you mean finding the way how to blame the horse by nit picking the contract smth. like he watched 8 videos instead of 10?
10-04-2015 , 12:15 PM
Yeah, something nit picky like not following the contract
10-04-2015 , 12:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bombonca
By this you mean finding the way how to blame the horse by nit picking the contract smth. like he watched 8 videos instead of 10?
It wasn't nitpicking, this guy had previously been caught breaking rules and had been dropped. They were nice enough to give him a 2nd chance and he continued to break rules. He was obviously on a tighter leash for a reason. The video thing was also not the only rule he'd broken. Staking doesn't work the way you think it does.
10-04-2015 , 12:55 PM
@bombonca u dont seem to understand how staking works, makeup is there so backers dont get freerolled. the business wouldnt even exist without makeup

here's a guide on the basics of staking:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/13...-games-306028/
10-19-2015 , 11:09 AM
Grunched last 50 posts or so. Just wanted to say I'd think an arbitration clause with the makeup due clause occurring only upon failure to attend arbitration would be much fairer. As someone who's been in a number of different staking deals, I would never agree to the terms stated because the discretion for the staker to penalise minor or technical breaches is far too great. Perhaps the poker community could even adopt some kind of condition/warranty/intermediate clause distinction for these cases.

Should note I'm not saying anything about Pocarr, everyone in the stable has been completely above board in my few dealings with them, or in what I've heard, and it's pretty obvious at 50 posts in that MU is due.
03-18-2016 , 04:28 PM
spotted him playing a bunch today.
midstakes easily 200+ in buyins
03-19-2016 , 03:27 PM
oh i see him playing occasionally too , did not realise that he stopped paying.
03-19-2016 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Asjbaaaf
oh i see him playing occasionally too , did not realise that he stopped paying.
This.

Came across him quite regularly the last while.
06-23-2016 , 02:47 AM
He is on the ft of the 109 ko

      
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