"Thief" site

Name: Konstantin
Stars: fiktenasch

Easily the most difficult and infuriating person we have ever worked with. He played off stake to the tune of ~$3k worth of games. Typically we cut guys as per our agreement and they owe us all makeup as we view these guys as unstakable (without this term people can freeroll us and we have little meaningful recourse). The exact term in our agreement which he signed is below:

25. Should Company be forced to cut Player due to a breach of this agreement, all makeup and starting bankroll is still owed to the company. Should these not be paid, a roller site similar to www.nicolamarianisathief.com will be created.

We gave Konstantin a second chance, but he did not meet our terms, again.

He was asked to update his rail after each playing day -- FAILED wildly. He has played on August 11th, 15th, 16th, 17th without updating, all the while asking for routine top-ups.
He was asked to play a minimum 500 games per month -- played 435 in July.
He was asked to watch a minimum 10 Pocarr training videos per month -- watched 8 in July.
While not meeting the above, in August he has played 100 games and watched 1 video.

When asked about the video watching, he explained his evbb/100 winrate is higher than it has ever been. I suppose this means he shouldn't need to fulfill that requirement?

When asked about playing 500 games he explained he played more than 500 games in June for us and felt he could play less in July.

A quote from him today when asked about working with Mental Coach Elliot Roe:
[11:22:06 AM] Kosta: i told many time
[11:22:11 AM] Kosta: that i have no mind issues
[11:22:15 AM] Kosta: im very happy guy
[11:22:42 AM] Kosta: i have made deals with about 7backers
[11:22:51 AM] Kosta: only 3 made a negative feedback

Only 3.

We had an agreement to start him this 2nd time at $4.50 180mans, and move him up in stakes every 30 days if he met our terms that he agreed to very clearly. Screenshot of terms: https://gyazo.com/b97f2cf262cb6e3afb2566d3a89c5859

As stated above he did not meet the videos or games in July. He then said this today:
[11:17:13 AM] Kosta: you said that you will move meup every 30 days
[11:17:30 AM] Kosta: so the last move up should happened about 16 days ago

Konstantin is delusional, blames everyone else for his mistakes, has constant excuses, and thinks he is never in the wrong.

As you can see in the above screenshot, we were very clear his website would be re-posted should he break any terms. He agreed. He broke terms.

So here we are with him breaking our agreement twice. We have our backees sign an agreement that should they break terms, we will part ways and ask them to repay makeup. It's too large a loophole to simply break a term and force us to drop you while in $10k makeup without this term. We did not force him to agree to this, he chose to. Now he has broken term after term after term and feels we are being unfair. Most delusional person I have ever met in my entire life--no exaggeration. He is now threatening us with a 2p2 war, of which he has no leverage and we welcome him posting whatever he wants.

hello 2+2 community,

i tried to solve all the issues with backers i had privately and will now present my opinion to all these allegations
that were made against me to harm my reputation in the poker community.

i made many docs and statements to provide as much informations i could here is the first one about pocarr:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...8Ko/edit#gid=0

i am ready to provide all informations(audits, skype logs, transactions etc.) to give you a better imagination what
really happened between us.

with all the other backers that are mentioned by pocarr on the website made im still in private conversations/negotiations,
and we are trying to find a more civilized and diplomatic way to solve our differences.
because of that i wont introduce you more in the relation with them but will if we cant find a solution for our issues.

it would be helpful if anybody of you who has a high reputation in the community could give his opinion on this.
a neutral perspective with no relation to the stables would help all of us.

about the things alex told about me that im a difficult, infuariating and delusional person i wont comment much.
i have never offended anybody and broke up talking to alex when he said this today:

[17:28:16] Kosta: alright
[17:28:46] Kosta: please be man enough to send me the link of site you upload and 2+2 post
[17:28:47] Kosta: thanks
[17:29:11] Alex Carr: [17:28] Kosta:

<<< be man enoughyou can find it yourself now
[17:29:24] Alex Carr: im done speaking with you. have a fantastic life you piece of ****.

this statement is way out of line and in addition i want to add following informations:
first of all my mum receieved a letter with a story from them.
in july my pokerstars account was freezed for about 6 days because someone tried to impersonate me.
and provided sensible informations like a copy of myy id.
also some of my friends inluding my girlfriend was contacted.

i want justice and can prove all i said above!
you can reach me in skype where i have same nick like here and thank you for you attention.

kosta

The fact that you chose this quote as an attempt to make Alex look bad just shows how little ground you have to stand on here. Here's the entire convo that lead to the "way out of line" remark. Don't pretend to be offended by that when you had a website calling you a thief online for a while and did nothing about it. If anyone can keep their cool as long as Alex did throughout this entire ordeal we may have a job for you.

[15:58:40 | Edited 16:00:03] Alex Carr: Kosta, we're parting ways with you. We gave you a chance when you owed people money (including us) and you've just not held up your end of the bargain.

You were short on games with the $4.50 180's but we gave you a pass because they didn't load (though you could have found other games to play).

You agreed to watch no less than 10 Pocarr videos per month. You watched 8 in July and in the first 18 days of August have watched 1.

You agreed to play no less than 500 games per month, last month you played 435. In the first 18 days of August you have played 104.

You are not updating your rail and I have sent you 4 top-ups without a single update.

You might feel you're "close enough" with the above, but we set guidelines for a reason. If we wanted to see 8 video watches and 400 games played, those would have been the minimums. You chose not to meet what we asked.

We are parting ways with you. Please send any funds you hold to msusyr24 (Canada). The amount you owe us is $11919.78 ($11319.78mu + $600sbr).

As per your agreement, if you break our agreement you owe makeup as we are uncomfortable giving money to someone who does not fulfill their end of an agreement both sides read, understood, and signed.

We need a repayment plan set up in the next 7 days. If you do not come up with one, we will be putting back up your website and be posting on 2p2.
[16:04:39] Kosta: hey alex i have some news for you too
[16:04:57] Kosta: so please lets do it more better way than last time
[16:05:02] Kosta: i will commenft first ur statements above
[16:05:14] Kosta: an provide you more info i made in the last days
[16:05:17] Kosta: enjoy
[16:07:01] Kosta: You were short on games with the $4.50 180's but we gave you a pass because they didn't load (though you could have found other games to play). i couldnt as you told me that other games are offstake, rob said i remember that these sngs starts every 5 min in peak times that was wrong so its not my fault that i didnt play enough games, its your fault as you made thos rediculous conditions.
[16:07:31] Kosta: You agreed to watch no less than 10 Pocarr videos per month. You watched 8 in July and in the first 18 days of August have watched 1.
[16:08:31] Kosta: thats lol because my winrate over the time i started with the second deal is way higher than before i remeber 10/100evbbs for over 80k i guess i can prove this
[16:09:08] Alex Carr: what does your winrate have to do with anything?
[16:09:10] Kosta: [15:58] Alex Carr:

<<< You agreed to play no less than 500 games per month, last month you played 435. In the first 18 days of August you have played 104.well i reached the first month over 500 games, second month it could be a little less
[16:09:20] Alex Carr: [16:09] Kosta:

<<< well i reached the first month over 500 games, second month it could be a little lessWhat makes you think this?
[16:09:23] Kosta: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...8Ko/edit#gid=0
[16:09:24] Alex Carr: 500 per month, no less.
[16:09:27] Alex Carr: Extra games don't roll over.
[16:09:29] Kosta: just look at this first
[16:09:48] Kosta: i made a statement more clearly about our difficulties
[16:09:52] Alex Carr: I'm not looking at that mess. You have broken term after term.
[16:10:02] Kosta: you did it too
[16:10:11] Alex Carr: what terms have we broken?
[16:10:13] Kosta: but let me please first comment
[16:10:21] Kosta: just go through the doc
[16:10:29] Kosta: i think i explained everything
[16:10:42] Alex Carr: im asking you now. what terms have we broken?
[16:10:54] Kosta: also i have spent a lot of time to make those calculations and am ready to give explanations to all my actions
[16:11:13] Kosta: well at the first staking for example
[16:11:22] Kosta: when we both negotiated a mtt schedule
[16:11:27] Kosta: and you marked out mtts
[16:11:31] Kosta: that were off
[16:11:35] Alex Carr: Look man, I'm closing this convo. This is going nowhere and I see I'm going to have to put back up the site.
[16:11:53] Alex Carr: I'll let Rob notify me if you input a repayment plan in this convo somewhere.
[16:12:05] Alex Carr: Otherwise in 7 days I have it marked in my calendar to put up the site.
[16:12:08] Alex Carr: I'm not conversing anymore.
[16:12:13] Kosta: the site was up/ statements too
[16:12:29] Kosta: alright lets go as soon the site is up
[16:12:38] Kosta: i go on 2on2 with this info
[16:12:46] Alex Carr: Then I might as well put it up today, why wait 7 days
[16:12:58] Alex Carr: I'm putting it up now so feel free to post whatever you like on 2p2.
[16:12:59] Kosta: and try to o it that way because you not even ready to talk to me
[16:13:22] Kosta: alright
[16:13:32] Kosta: if you think thats the best way we can do it
[16:13:58] Alex Carr: You have broken term after term after term. You owe us money and are not giving us a repayment plan. I don't know what more you expect from us.
[16:14:13] Kosta: let the community decide
[16:14:46] Kosta: who broke terms
[16:14:53] Alex Carr: whatever you want man
[16:14:54] Alex Carr: putting up the site
[16:15:17] Kosta: yeah thank you
[16:15:28] Kosta: it shows me that you lied to me previous
[16:15:40] Alex Carr: im asking how I have lied
[16:15:42] Alex Carr: and you aren't answering
[16:15:50] Kosta: i answered
[16:15:53] Alex Carr: how is that?
[16:15:59] Kosta: look alex
[16:16:04] Kosta: i prepared a doc
[16:16:08] Alex Carr: im asking a question and you aren't even answering me
[16:16:16] Alex Carr: you are impossible to have a conversation with
[16:16:18] Kosta: where i say things from my perspective
[16:16:24] Kosta: lol
[16:16:30] Kosta: i told you
[16:16:30] Alex Carr: Name me 1 way we lied
[16:16:33] Alex Carr: answer that
[16:16:40] Kosta: for example
[16:16:43] Kosta: you said both
[16:16:48] Kosta: that after i start playing for you
[16:16:54] Kosta: site an post will be deleted
[16:17:01] Kosta: now are about 4 months past
[16:17:04] Kosta: nothing changed
[16:17:11] Kosta: you said that you will move meup every 30 days
[16:17:17] Alex Carr: man are you serious?
[16:17:24] Alex Carr: It was immediately deleted, we can't control Google.
[16:17:28] Kosta: so the last move up should happened about 16 days ago
[16:17:33] Alex Carr: are you serious?
[16:17:38] Kosta: you deleted the content
[16:17:39] Alex Carr: you did not watch 10 videos in July
[16:17:45] Alex Carr: you did not play 500 games in July
[16:17:48] Alex Carr: that was the agreement
[16:17:49] Kosta: i looked for the site and checked the provider etc.
[16:17:50] Alex Carr: you failed to meet it
[16:18:25] Alex Carr: I went in to wordpress and clicked "delete my site permanently". There is literally nothing more I can do.
[16:18:28] Kosta: hmm
[16:18:39] Kosta: i think we just cant find a solution...
[16:18:47] Alex Carr: You're going to get ripped to shreds on 2p2
[16:18:58] Kosta: so why is the site still on when i go on the link?
[16:19:04] Alex Carr: give me the link
[16:19:12] Kosta: i dont care alex i talked to some backers in the last time
[16:19:22] Alex Carr: alright, post what you have to
[16:19:26] Alex Carr: im putting up the site
[16:19:27] Alex Carr: have a nice life
[16:19:30] Kosta: and they checked the infos
[16:19:40] Kosta: skypelogs/contract and audits
[16:19:47] Alex Carr: okay man
[16:19:48] Alex Carr: post it
[16:19:49] Alex Carr: I want you to
[16:19:55] Kosta: just look how you write
[16:20:00] Alex Carr:
[16:20:25] Kosta: its not serious
[16:20:27] Alex Carr: We paid [mindset coach] to work with you something we never do
[16:20:31] Kosta: and i was more than nice to you
[16:20:33] Alex Carr: he declined to work further with you
[16:20:42] Alex Carr: he said he couldn't work with you
[16:20:48] Kosta: but whatever, some backers including dimi i ripped changed their mind aswell
[16:20:57] Alex Carr: You did not fulfill your agreement numerous times
[16:21:01] Alex Carr: I don't know what more you want from us
[16:21:07] Alex Carr: I'm sure he has
[16:21:14] Kosta: and you can ask him that the 5k$+ i never owe him... it was basically just a number he guessed...
[16:21:15] Alex Carr: [16:04] dimi:

<<< not surprising
well if u don't mind
let me know what you agree to with him
if there will be an agreement
[16:21:18] Alex Carr: sounds like he changed his mind
[16:21:29] Kosta: man
[16:21:31] Alex Carr: [16:03] dimi:

<<< he messaged me few days ago and is willing to send audits and all that to get a figure for a repayment plan
but he said hed need to find a new backer and sort out a situation with you as well
[16:21:35] Kosta: he couldnt work with me?
[16:21:36] Kosta: haha
[16:21:48] Kosta: what kind of work does you mean man
[16:21:55] Kosta: i didnt want to waste your money with that
[16:22:00] Kosta: that redicolous
[16:22:01] Alex Carr: okay
[16:22:01] Kosta: really
[16:22:05] Kosta: i told many time
[16:22:09] Kosta: that i have no mind issues
[16:22:13] Kosta: im very happy guy
[16:22:21] Kosta: even been through all that ****
[16:22:24] Kosta: you basically mae
[16:22:29] Kosta: no other backer was like that
[16:22:40] Kosta: i have made deals with about 7backers
[16:22:49] Kosta: only 3 made a negative feedback
[16:22:53] Alex Carr: lmfao
[16:22:58] Alex Carr: 3/7 backers made negative feedback about you?
[16:23:01] Kosta: dimi will take his feedback down
[16:23:09] Alex Carr: do you realize how ridiculous this is?
[16:23:11] Kosta: and we already in talking
[16:23:16] Alex Carr: 42% of your backers have issues with you?
[16:23:23] Kosta: what means issues
[16:23:31] Alex Carr: [16:22] Kosta:

<<< 3 made a negative feedback
[16:23:34] Alex Carr: sounds like issues
[16:23:37] Kosta: i lost money on agreed conditions
[16:23:44] Alex Carr: no one is coming after you for losing
[16:23:46] Kosta: mtt poker is variance
[16:23:47] Alex Carr: don't be delusional
[16:23:54] Kosta: thats why i asked for those deals
[16:25:33] Kosta: whatever... after reading that and seeing you talking to me like that i think we cant communicate like adult men
[16:25:48] Alex Carr: yep it's my fault
[16:25:49] Kosta: also like i described where real issues came from
[16:25:55] Alex Carr: everyone elses fault, like usual
[16:26:08] Kosta: it was basically because of our communication
[16:26:28] Kosta: no i made mistakes but i tried to solve it
[16:26:44] Kosta: but you will see that my mistakes arent that high as yours
[16:26:59] Kosta: after i gone through the audits and made a calculation on my own
[16:27:07] Kosta: and i will provide the info
[16:27:11] Kosta: to everyone asks
[16:27:46] Alex Carr: I have no problem with you doing all of that
[16:28:02] Kosta: i just wante to have a good businesspartner, and the issues i had with these 3 backers including you werent no scammings/thiefactions.
[16:28:16] Kosta: alright
[16:28:46] Kosta: please be man enough to send me the link of site you upload and 2+2 post
[16:28:47] Kosta: thanks
[16:29:12] Alex Carr: [16:28] Kosta:

<<< be man enoughyou can find it yourself now
[16:29:25] Alex Carr: im done speaking with you. have a fantastic life you piece of ****.
[16:29:36] Kosta: lol
[16:29:50] Kosta: maybe thats the reason why you need [mindset coach]?
[16:29:56] Kosta: thats way out of line
[16:31:01] Kosta: from start meeting you in skype i never offended you

Pocarr has been more than fair with kosta. I honestly believe kosta would pay the money back if he could. But as you can see from previous posts, this will not be happening under stake with pocarr. If anyone wants to back him and work out a repayment plan to get the site down please contact us.

Fiktenasch: You look like a proper **** in the convo.
The facts are:
You broke every single rules you agreed to.
You owe the makeup and balance.

Hey rob,

if you wanna see the facts check out the doc, 100% of the info is real isnt it so?
about the other issues with other backers i will post too if we cant find a solution.
And you can try to get me down together. aight? =)

little ground lol did i ever offended any of you this way? question right away... how little ground do you have rob when you laughed at 05:26 the vid where u made this makeup calc.? or put so many pix with so many different people on my scamsite? there is no scamsite at all from other backers about mine right? and all of your scamsites the poor guys have much less pix lol
so here you are way out of line when you involve people that have no relation to our business. he first fact where you lied is, you promissed me that the site will be complete deleted! the domain was there just the content were off, everybody who googled my name could see the site and there are several pictures of mine on that site that you saw and were linked to the site.
You promissed also to delete 2+2 thread and you lied again didnt you?

here some conversation prove:

[24.04.2015 16:06:31] Kosta: hey alex
[24.04.2015 16:08:40] Alex Carr: All we can offer is the following. I agree with Rob you seem genuine. But there are at least 4(?) backers that have had issues so you have to see this from our point of view.

The best we can offer is as follows and Rob and I are on call and like this offer. Let us know your thoughts.

We'll stake you for $4.50 180 man normal speeds for 30 days. If you put in volume and watch our training videos and have good communication etc, we will then add stuff to this stake the next month. We'll rinse and repeat--if that next 30 days goes well and you continue to work hard, show good communication, and put in volume with zero off stake games, we'll add games again.

This allows us to back you again with lower risk, and takes down your site immediately. We can offer 90/10 splits so anything you have to send us, you would get 10% of to cashout and that amount would be doubled and added back to makeup (we don't gain extra by doubling it).

If you agree to this and the first 30 days goes well, we'll get you into some private Apestyles webinars and 1-on-1 private mental coaching with Elliot Roe.
[24.04.2015 16:11:35] Kosta: alex u serious?

[24.04.2015 16:18:09 | Bearbeitet 16:19:40] Alex Carr: First 30 days -- $4.50 180man normal speed SNGs
May 25th- June 25th -- $11 freezeouts, $4 rebuys, $7 normal speed sngs 27+ entrants -- MUST MEET WITH ELLIOT ROE
July 26th - August 26th -- $22 freezeouts $5 rebuys, $11 normal speed sngs 27+ entrants
August 27th - September 27th -- $33 freezeouts, $8 rebuys, $15 normal speed SNGs 27+ entrants
October 28th - November 28th -- $33 freezeouts, $11 rebuys (no action hour), Big $55, $15 normal speed SNGs 27+ entrants.
November 29th -- Reevaluate

*no turbos other than "hot's"
*no off stake games at all on any sites
*minimum 10 pocarr video watches per month
[24.04.2015 16:18:23] Alex Carr: *must remain opted-in on sharkscope on all sites
[24.04.2015 16:18:55] Alex Carr: *500 minimum games per month
[24.04.2015 16:19:24] Alex Carr: The site would come down immediately but go back up if any part of this is broken.

[24.04.2015 16:54:40] Rob: the website will come down immediatley and the 2p2 thread may take a little longer
[24.04.2015 16:54:47] Rob: as we do not control it
[24.04.2015 16:55:26] Rob: you also cannot apply for staking elsewhere during the deal
[24.04.2015 17:01:34] Kosta: ok sounds good but raising in limits every 30 days if i dont break rules right?
[24.04.2015 17:04:15] Rob: correct
[24.04.2015 17:05:07] Kosta: one thing i just checking out the action and they are starting every 10 mins can i add 2.50 turbo 180s?
[24.04.2015 17:05:34] Rob: Those will remain off stake
[24.04.2015 17:05:57] Kosta: how many sngs u expect a month?
[24.04.2015 17:06:13] Rob: 500/month
[24.04.2015 17:06:27] Rob: which is 17/day
[24.04.2015 17:06:42] Kosta: whats the best time for themß
[24.04.2015 17:09:32] Rob: yeah so if you do b22-b11 for registering you'll have plenty of games it seems
[27.04.2015 18:07:33] Alex Carr: Hey Kosta, I've taken down your site and posted on 2p2 that we are working things out. I'm sorry for the delay on our end. I'm looking forward to us working together and progressing positively.
[27.04.2015 18:37:00] Kosta: ty alex the site is blank but i can still find that "Konstantin **** is a Thief, konstantin****isathief.com/, 27.03.2015 - How Konstantin **** stole money from investors."+ my photos linked to the site when i google my name. can you delete it also or will it stay there?
[27.04.2015 18:54:03] Rob: this is because its still in the google buffer, i think it takes a week to leave the system

[13.05.2015 16:37:08] Alex Carr: We cannot control google's search engine. We removed the site but google has it's own way of caching information and we don't have control over that.
[13.05.2015 16:50:59] Kosta: who can control this if not you? the site is still up, u removed just the content. thats the reason why its still in google cash
[13.05.2015 16:56:14] Alex Carr: We will delete the site if things continue smoothly and we get past this first 30 day period. It costs us both time and money to rebuild these types of sites so we simply removed the content given the likelihood in our experience of a problem reoccurring. We've given 2nd chances to a number of guys and the % of the time it works out is exceptionally low. You've had multiple backers with issues which makes it even lower.

I hope very much that we can work together and resolve things, but mathematically with the data we have it's just not a likely outcome--so we went with that. I hope you prove us wrong and after these 30 days pass (it's gotta be close?) we will delete the site instead of just removing the content as you will have proven to us that you're trying to fix things and that it's worth us taking the added risk of having to rebuild that site.


[14.05.2015 18:18:10] Kosta: ok deal, on 26th are 30 days past and i will send you the audits, could we grow in stakes by quantity of games instead of time period?
[14.05.2015 18:18:47] Kosta: btw just checked mails here is the data you asked for
[14.05.2015 20:56:59] Alex Carr: Ty for sending those. We're going to stick to the 30 day schedule. We don't want you mass-multi-tabling and putting in volume for the sake of moving up in stakes. It's important to us that you're playing a normal number of tables, focusing on making high EV plays, and playing your best with an emphasis on continual improvement. We know you're already good at poker, but everyone's getting better every day and it's important we keep up with them and get better at a faster rate than they do.


[25.05.2015 21:43:05] Alex Carr: Sorry man, you didn't meet our requirements. You can try again for another 30 days of $4.50 180s or we'll part ways and add what you lost to the total and you can set up a repayment plan.

[Freitag, 24. April 2015 16:18] Alex Carr:

<<< *500 minimum games per month
[25.05.2015 21:43:09] Alex Carr: You played 238 games.
[28.05.2015 21:27:32] Alex Carr: Please let us know what you've decided.
[29.05.2015 15:34:41] Kosta: yeah so if you do b22-b11 for registering you'll have plenty of games it seemsThey typically run every 5 minutes or so at peak timesthe sngs runnnig every 15-20 mins in the peak time and there is no action before and after just ask your horses or check it by urself ... i played a max 9 tables @ sunday where the action is a bit better but at all i cant reach the 500 games with them... also i have no time to play daily and sit 10h just to reach this 500 games and one or two table... i though the sense of this sngs and the low raising in stakes was just a provement for my ambitious and discipline to not playing off stake and lower risk for you. but now i just dont understand this at all. we had a deal that as soon i start to grind the post and the site will be deleted. what happened? you did just removed the content of website but site is still up, the thread is still there you just wrote that we are trying to fix this. you do always mention that i had issues with several backers and thats the reason for this punishment. but never wanted hear my side of the story and never asked for information that can prove my view .there are some backers there that could provide you good info about me and at all i had never such strict guidelines. i left already stables for some motnhs with the same scale of make up as ours and came back whenever i wanted played off stakes and never had any pressure. after i felt pranked with the site and the letter to my mum and didnt want that things go further this way i decided to get back to you and grind this make up out but instead of putting me in the games i have a edge on i grind now low stakes with a poor action and no motivation. also i have no informations on this players i play against and cant use neither my hud or instinct as the players are just doing random stuff. i would like to speak one of you personal via skype conference to make things clear and find a common denominator and sorry i was not at home for whole week so couldnt respond earlier. ty kosta

[30.05.2015 00:12:11] Alex Carr: I checked the $4.50 180s this morning and you're right, they don't load as quickly as we had anticipated.

We're fine moving forward with the proposed "May 25th- June 25th -- $11 freezeouts, $4 rebuys, $7 normal speed sngs 27+ entrants -- MUST MEET WITH ELLIOT ROE". This would be until June 29th.

It's very important to us that you go into your Elliot Roe sessions with an open mind and give it your best effort. He's the best mindset coach in the world for poker players and athletes and we pay him a lot of money to work with our guys. He's helped our elite players improve and works with guys in the top of their sports.

If you're willing to give Elliot your best effort and agree to the above stakes for 500 games in the next 30 days, I'll update your rail and we'll move forward.
[30.05.2015 02:58:39] Kosta: alright alex sounds good i will play from now 500 games monthly and am ready to meet elliot roe! thank you for understanding and i will show you what i am capable of!
[30.05.2015 19:43:09] Alex Carr: I hope so.
[30.05.2015 19:43:17] Alex Carr: I just sent a further $200 to increase your SBR to $400.
[30.05.2015 19:44:37] Alex Carr: I also updated your rail to reflect the changes.
[30.05.2015 19:44:40] Alex Carr: Stars – You are staked for up through $11 freezeouts, $4 rebuys, and $7 normal speed SNGs with 27+ entrants.

For clarity this does not include hypers, satellites, time tournaments, or 2x/3x turbos.
[31.05.2015 00:46:06] Kosta: thank you alex im on the way to ship the big 8,8 1/15 70+ bbs
[31.05.2015 01:06:53] Alex Carr: Glgl
[31.05.2015 01:45:40] Kosta: ty 1/7
[31.05.2015 02:28:49] Kosta: first =)
[31.05.2015 03:57:28] Kosta: 5431,09 sent to alex, i hope i calculated right check out the rail.

Sent you $40 to cashout. You should have $400 going into today with 8271.33 makeup (y)
[01.06.2015 13:57:09] Kosta: ty, i dont want meddling you but is it possible to move me lvl up after clearing 40% of mu? would be a better investment for both of us as mtts>sngs in ev i explained this before. also the softness of mtts is over the summer huge as most regs are on vacation/vegas/burning money + lower fields/tlb prizes... and btw elliot has contacted me yesterday and we setup a conference on wednesday. to be clear you bear all costs for this right?
[01.06.2015 14:21:26] Alex Carr: we will bear the costs of Elliot, yes. We're going to stick with the current levels we're at for now. I agree games are a small bit softer, but it's not an enormous difference and while binking one tournament is great, we don't really look at one-off instances at all--we look at the whole picture when moving someone up or down.

my explanation to the allegations from alex:
"You were short on games with the $4.50 180's but we gave you a pass because they didn't load (though you could have found other games to play)."
yes i played much less you right but i explained why via skype, lol i couldnt play offstakes! its a part of our agreement and
when i asked you if i can add $2.50 turbo sngs you told i cant beause they are offstake. after it you moved me up where i could get enough volume.

"You agreed to watch no less than 10 Pocarr videos per month. You watched 8 in July and in the first 18 days of August have watched 1."
July 2 vids to less damn, it was a hot summer and i went out and whats the point in looking your vids? I watch other stuff to improve more efficient.
Increasing my ev isnt it so? i increased it and i can bet that my winrate over summer belongs to the best 20% of horses in your stable!

"You agreed to play no less than 500 games per month, last month you played 435. In the first 18 days of August you have played 104."
last month i couldnt play for 6 days i can prove this, someone tried to impersonate me.
and provided sensible informations like a copy of myy id, i have emails from pokerstars support etc.
because of your communication and moving me up every month we came to 6 days delay here the last time you moved me up.


[01.07.2015 03:19:03] Alex Carr: Stars – You are staked for up through $22 freezeouts, $5 rebuys, and $11 normal speed SNGs with 27+ entrants.

For clarity this does not include hypers, satellites, time tournaments, or 2x/3x turbos.
[01.07.2015 03:19:12] Alex Carr: ^ updated to that. I'm sending you $200 now which will increase your SBR from $400 to $600.

believe me im not interested in damaging your image, as i never wanted to go public or made any feedback. and all the infos i provided i shared with you before many times by many statements. you started this confrontation months ago on 2+2 and set this site on. this is just my reaction
on all allegations you made. if somebody is damaging your image then you i just want to remove allegations you made against me that damaging my business and let potential investors know my pocarrstory. Because you contacted several people around me i will contact people around you. =)

i can reveal so many facts that may open your eyes and think more clearly about all that happened and will happen to you and your stable. first fact:

THE SCAMRATE

while i was just wondering what kind of scams happened here i went through some posts. and what i saw has frightened me and i dont stuck in the same drawer. where im going is.. you guys have the highest scamrate isnt it so? ofcourse you have the biggest stable in the business and the most successful i guess and thats the reason i wanted to work with you!
fact is that you cant pay enough attention to 100+ horses. even you alex said it to me many times
didnt you?

i respected and treated you all well, after all the abligations you made against me talked with elliot, had a webinar with assassinato reviewing my recent big8,8 win and finally talked with you and rob personal via skype call! Where you accepeted that i can look for another deals and understood my point of view! Now you are dropping me again because i didnt So please explain this and tell me why elliot couldnt work with me anymore? After our second interview i told him that i dont feel any pressure while playing poker and my mind is well prepared before, during and after the session no matter what results i have.

The only thing that influenced my mind was the deal you offered me.
I dont need a mentor or somebody who watches for me if everything is fine lol. im a grown man and old enough to manage myself, my feelings, my mind, my body! Man you have no idea what i been through so far in my life and believe me i had much difficult decissions i made. I was a fighter in the nationalteam of germany for years and achieved some goals besides that.
Building up start ups, and have more connections outside the pokercommunity.

Your opinion at the end is interesting, when you say that you been more than fair with me. lets call this a"sit-down commedy" I wont comment this, if you would ever believing me you would never offer me that ridiculous deal and treat me like this. You guys all know what im capable of and believe me even this battle of skype logs opinions etc. proceeds bad for me because the most people will be on your site i will still be here.

"Fiktenasch: You look like a proper **** in the convo.
The facts are:
You broke every single rules you agreed to.
You owe the makeup and balance. "

who are you MX210? in what relation are you with pocarr? show me the facts you have enough info, dont waste my time.

i will follow with revealing my opinion and other facts after each post of anyone! gogogo and please be concrete and sorry for my english mistakes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOthPI-MxaA
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...8Ko/edit#gid=0

kosta

You do understand that all the crap you just posted makes you look even worse kosta? You're only showing how much pocarr has tried to make this work and how you screwed it up? I have no relation with pocarr.

This is why i refuse to stake anyone not extremely proficient in english, its such a dumb language, you can't expect someone that can't speak better than a 5years old child to bring anything good into your life.

ps: nobody wants to read your doc/open your potentialy shady links. Get a translator to help you understand all the bad things you've done(and then pay up) or pay up right away.

this docs i made myself with the same audits they received but all the info i provide made by my own here is 100% real all screenshots all skype logs true and i can show enough informations(move forward all audits from all sites/xfers/share screen/contract etc.) everything needed to check everything out. i made over 100k$ transfers with backers and won for most of them my reputation is very important for me. my goal is to stay longer in this business its not my fault that pocarr dropped me its their fault breaking the contract and providing me and others wrong numbers. im smart enough to know what im doing and telling here believe me.

You didn't watch the required videos
You didn't play the required # of games
You didn't fullfill the terms of the agreement

But it's their fault? LOL.

This. I mean it's clear as day that Kosta owes them the MU and the SBR. This GoogleDoc nonsense is just a waste of time, energy and internet space.

Kosta - you broke your agreement. You Kosta yourself a lot of money. Pay up and shut up!

And just to be clear - I have no relationship with Pocarr. I applied for Pocarr lite once and didn't get accepted!

you have no imagination what all this will lead to, and the pointless opinions from randoms doesnt interest me.
do you really think im that dumb to take the risk to battle this guys in their community in public without any grain of truth?
i have made deals with seven backers where we negotiated all conditions from both sides and pocarr is the only
stable that made such a damage to my reputation and now wants to look me like an incompetence idiot.
alex and rob trying to beat me down with stupidy and said a bunch of **** about me, and im not a type of guy
who will let this happen, and thats the reason why im here with the information me and pocarr are sharing.
the calucaltions i made in the docs are just help to get a better orientation what was really going on between me and pocarr.
all the numbers im providing i took out ot the audits, skype logs i made by screenshots to prove the contract conditions.
as i told before i can move forward all informations that needed to prove my words.

first deal conditions:
[26.11.2014 23:41:26] Kosta: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...-zw/edit#gid=0
[26.11.2014 23:41:39] Kosta: thats a schedule i would like to play
[26.11.2014 23:42:26] Kosta: but i accept to skip for the beginning b109+
[26.11.2014 23:44:14] Alex Carr: Right now our highest guys play an ABI around $25. This hand history is quite good and we'd be looking to
offer you something along the lines of $33 freezeouts, $11 rebuys, "Big" $55, $55 40k, Sunday Kickoff, "Bigger" $109, and Sunday Million.
The stakes on other sites would be comparable to this, but we'd give you details on that if you are still interested.

We are open to moving you up with earned trust, good communication/rail, volume, results, and hard work.

We offer free webinars from Squee451, Assassinato, hand history reviews from myself (msusyr24), robtinnion, and limited 1-on-1 coaching with Apestyles.

You'd get to keep all rakeback and freerolls for yourself and be free to play higher with your own funds, no problem.

Let me know if you're still interested in discussing.
[26.11.2014 23:46:41] Kosta: sounds good
[26.11.2014 23:46:55] Alex Carr: Okay let me get together a full offer, one sec.
[27.11.2014 00:03:12] Alex Carr: Thanks for answering those.
We'd like to offer you a stake for the non-red games on your sheet and add the following:
Bigger $75
Bigger $109
$100K Sunday Ch. $90 1R with <5k makeup
Big $75 with <5k makeup
Night on Stars-M [1R1A] €30 with <5k makeup
Big $109 with <5k makeup

For clarity, this stake would not include hypers, satellites, time tournaments, or 2x/3x turbos over $3.

As with all of our backees, we're happy to consider moving you up with earned trust, good communication/rail, volume, results, and hard work.

You would get to keep all rakeback, would be permitted to play any off-stake games for yourself with your own funds,
and would get free access to our video library and monthly webinars from Assassinato, robtinnion, and Squee451.

This points are relevant from the contract alex sent me:

This agreement is made and takes effect on November 26th, 2014 between Pocarr, a MDcompany, hereafter called “Company” and
Konstantin ****, hereafter called “Player”. Player shall receive funds from Company to play assigned online poker games.
Company agrees to provide timely top-ups and allow profit chops at any point while in profit.

12.Player will be given specific tournaments they can play.
Company will move Player up and down buy-in levels at its discretion.
Player will only be moved down with exceptionally good reason and will not be done so lightly.

13.Player may play games not included in their stake only after getting permission from Company.
Player agrees to maintain at least a 10:1 ratio for games played on stake to games played off stake.

14.Should Company want to stake Player for games outside the initial stakes
and/or poker sites, they may be added. Player may not refuse adding these games to the stake.

15.Should Player play a non-staked game it is presumed the event is off stake. Should
Player accidently register a non-staked game, Player must deposit funds to cover this game.

16.Using Pocarr funds to play non-staked games and then replenishing the funds later is
strictly prohibited. This is called floating. Player is to deposit and play with their own
funds, should they choose to play non-staked games.

21.When Player and Company are in agreement, Player may buy their way out of makeup
at an agreed upon rate

22.Company may impose minimum posting and video watching video requirements upon
which top-ups will be contingent.

[15.01.2015 18:43:25] Alex Carr: Hi Kosta,

After a lot of discussion on our end we are choosing to part ways with you. We have had maybe 20 people mess up and play off stake or steal
in some format and only 1 time has it ever worked out when we gave a 2nd chance. We've made a decision recently that we are no longer giving
second chances because we're losing so much money doing it and statistically it does not work out.

As this is a breach of our contract--playing off stake games with Pocarr funds--and the fact that we feel we can no longer back you comfortably,
we are going to ask for the full starting bankroll and makeup back.

We are choosing to excercise term 25 in our contract:
25. Should Company be forced to cut Player due to a breach of this agreement, all makeup and starting bankroll is still owed to the company.
Should these not be paid, a roller site similar to www.nicolamarianisathief.com will be created.

We realize this is a tough situation and are willing to workout a repayment plan with you. Let us know what is a realistic monthly repayment amount.

Your makeup and starting bankrolls total 13618.09.

We realize you'll be upset by this but this decision is final. We have lost tens of thousands of dollars continuing to stake players in this
situation (played off stake with our funds) and are not going to do it anymore.

Please return all cash you hold immediately and let us know what is a realistic repayment plan for the rest.

i did many statements after that and pocarr just igrnored me and just asked for the makeup.
pocarr says that i broke the contract by the term #16, while i "floated"(small amount only at the beginning) some of the staking roll for buy ins and had permission to
and noted in the docs that i will pay for the off stakes loses in a short time or with rakeback, you can also see many deposits made on my own!
until the 15.01.14 nobody told me anything i was doing is wrong, the receieved twice the audits and also say themselve that
they saw me playing prevously off stakes with their money and see no problem with.
so nothing i did is comparable with stealing or breaking any part of the agreement as i informed they about all my actions before signing the contract!
i provided all docs from beginning of our staking agreement where i put off stakes games/rakeback/xfers in. i made profit on off stakes games
and didnt cash much of the prizes out and let the most of in the bankroll for future off/on stakes games just check out audits!
I was nice to them at this point and you can prove this information via audits. its 100% true
when it came to the point where alex and rob calculated my audits they just picked games where i lost with basically $100+ mtts that were offstake.
Also funny was when i told them when 888 was lagging that i will skip the games basically majors because of security reasons,
and wanted to switch the games with some others for example switch $215 megadeep with $215 warmup on stars.eu etc, but nothing happened.
played no low ev games at all only mtts and my game selection was best just the variance punished me.

after all that they took money in the makeup i owe him from won offstakes games and breached the contract by themselve.
so what am i paying here for? makeup was even higher if you subtract the off stakes, also they forgot to subtract the
tickets i bough with my rakeback and didnt share any expenses when i went to deauville playing for them the 1k€ fps.

after all that they offered me a second deal,
which was ridiculous with the conditions they made compared to the first deal and i accepted it only because i didnt
want see the site and the 2+2 thread they made public. they didnt meet my requirements for month and
i was nice when and pleased them many times to delete completely the site and the 2+2 post they made
as its a part of our agreement and they just dropped me the second time because i didnt watch 2 videos and played some games to less??
cmon this is ridiculous, the first 30 days i couldnt reach the amount of games because the action was low
and rob provided me wrong information where he told that the games starting every 5 mins in peak times. LIE
the lied to me several times that they have deleted the site, haha they put it online again just 1 hour
after our last conversation in skype thats proof enough that the site was still on and they just removed
the content. LIE! i cant say anything how much videos i looked but i can say that but my winrate improves
every month and thats the sense of it isnt it?. about the game quantity i told, i was close to the
500 games since you let me play mtts again and couldnt meet just last month this amount and missed about 50 mtts
thats i would play at least if you would let me play my original schedule... and to be honest i lost the
motivation afer i talked with some backers and they couldnt offer me a stake because of your infos.
so whats the point of me meeting your requirements when you are not meeting mine? you broke the rules
first an i was as kind as i could now we have this.

can anybody tell me a better place to discuss this on 2+2? ty
and if i waste my time/spcae with the docs and staments its my prob.
i can bet that the most of you who gave their feebacks would never have the balls to say this in my face.
also your posts are really senseless and i wont comment anymore anything like this,
so keep your emotional outbreaks for yourself and talk to elliot about it he may help you how
to deal with aggression etc. you cant compete with me...
in my opinion, if a man doesnt have his own philosophy then he is not a man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAqEnl2-2jQ
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...8Ko/edit#gid=0

You asked for the opinion of the community. Now, because you don't like what people are saying it doesn't matter?

It's not that hard to see why Alex said you were easily the most frustrating person to deal with ever.

Seriously - pay back the money you OWE!

Am I the only one who's a little uncomfortable with a guy who played 400+ games in a month rather than 500, and watched 8 videos instead of 10, being blackmailed with the threat of a trainwreck site by his wealthy backers if he doesn't "repay" the full $11k makeup?

I mean, I understand the need for an "if we have to drop you due to gross misconduct you'll still be liable for MU" clause, and I can see the value of the xxxxisathief websites in some cases. It just seems overly harsh in this case, since however much of a dick this horse may be he doesn't appear to have "stolen" in the traditional sense of the word, all I see is a mention of playing games he wasn't authorised to play in a previous agreement.

Of course I may well be ignorant of some facts; I'm just forming my opinion from the posts itt and a cursory skimming of the content of his trainwreck site.

Wasn't he given permission to play higher as per this quote?

So if he settles up the money he used for higher buyins (if not already done so) then that should be you guys finished?

When you agree to a lowly minimum of 500 games in a month + 10 videos and cant deliver, there's something seriously wrong with you.
I still don't understand how pocarr staked this guy, if you look at his graph the only reason hes won something over the last 4 years is 4 big lucky binks, the rest of the graph is straight down.

I agree he seems a pretty terrible horse, and I don't doubt he was a nightmare to deal with. Is he a thief though? That's my concern; that the xxxxisathief websites are increasingly being used as a weapon with which to intimidate horses into complying with occasionally unreasonable demands.

Possible I'm reading it wrong but it appears that the initial problem came from the horse using pocarr funds to play games outside the stake without depositing his own money to do it (but i guess with the intention on paying it back later). This floating of funds is against the rules for obvious reasons so that seems to be why they initially dropped him. Then they gave him a 2nd chance so it doesn't seem unfair or that they are blackmailing him with the site since he didn't meet the agreement he made. He came up a little short in July but he was also ridiculously far behind the pace for August as well more than halfway through the month it seems, and if you are on a 2nd chance and you don't meet the requirements that you agreed to (or communicate to the backer a reasonable reason why you aren't hitting the requirement) than I don't think that's a great spot to be lenient to the horse.

in 99% cases i agree with you, except this time the guy has breached some pretty hard to breach terms.

But to know that you'd have to read through a massive wall of non-sense text.

agreed with this

What profit cut did you get fikten?

i played off stake games with permission you can see the exact ruling above. there is no rule if i win money offstake they can keep it when im risking 100% on my own when im doing so even i would use "their" funds. neither in contract nor in skype logs etc you can see that gives them permission to keep those winnings. when i bought any stuff like tickets or receieved tlb prizes i let all on stake as fluent money,made ~785$ with tickets and won ~2,8k$ off stakes and deposited even if a bigger part of it was pocarrs money. believe me if i knew earlier what consequences all that would bring i wouldnt do it, but as a return pocarr should be happy that i played those offstakes games. why pocarr took me hmm i was a part time player and made in one year 3x big55 fts 1x 1. 2x 3. + several other scores and possibilities to bink some majors wcoop15 wu 6max 25., wu 27., when rob won sunday million i became 20. this year etc. on multisites and ran under ev and still have a overall winrate about 8/100evbb for over 240k hands over summer i reached 15/100evbb and about 100k hands but ran a bit better also softer games. but the point ist that i would commit enough time to play much more if there would be any motivation to do so. in our original contract pocarr wanted me to play at least 200 games/month and i played about 1,8k mtts in 1,5 months during holidays because of the possibility to have wider selection of games i could play an planning a better schedule. while playing 70%full time and ran pretty ugly fted bigger75 and made some other deep runs but bricked most specials because of variance. in the first deal i had 50/50 in the second deal because of makeup i receieved 10% of transfers to them and 90% cleared mu. and thats a joke and i acepeted the deal just because of my reputation and wanted to look for another backer but cant even after they gave me permission the biggest stables see the info here. here is a schedule i prepared for potential investors with some info about mine. justice and wake up guys, respect me and you will receieve more than you can even imagine...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipe6CMvW0Dg

So you think they should be happy that you played off stake tournaments with their money because you happened to run good and win a little bit of money in them? That's not how it works lol, stop making terrible excuses and start doing the right things if you don't want a bad reputation as a stakee. You put yourself in this mess, no one else.

There are some fair questions being asked and I'll explain our thoughts.

In general with staking:
We are giving people money in countries we have never been to and will never visit. We will never meet these individuals. We have very little recourse if they breach our agreements. For that reason, we are quite strict and very straight forward. Before we send a penny, we are very clear with what we expect and what the consequences will be if you breach what we both agree upon before any money is sent and any games are played.

We ask for makeup and the SBR to be repaid if someone breaches our agreement. The reason for this is to avoid being freerolled. Let me give an extreme example:
Player X gets $10k in makeup
Player X starts using funds to play nothing but off-stake games
Clearly we cannot stake Player X anymore. He isn't technically stealing, but he's breaching our agreement and unstakeable.

Given we all agree we will need to cut Player X, does the community feel he owes us all the makeup or just what he played off stake with? If it's the latter, then the staking industry will die because it's in every backees best interest to break terms when in makeup. Build $50k in makeup, play off stake with $5k, get dropped and repay $5k. This is far too big of a loop hole.

We're confident the community would agree that without this term in place, we're getting freerolled and what is meant to be a 50/50 + MU deal is really a 50/50 with no MU deal.

With regard to the xxxisathief websites, I would strongly encourage you reading this to consider what recourse we have as backers. When we are offering our own money to people we have never met and they agree to terms, we expect them to honor that. The roller sites help deter future people from breaking terms and they offer the only recourse we realistically have. We're not going to internationally take anyone to court.

If the community has a better alternative to those sites, we are all ears. At this point in time, we simply don't know of a better way to deter people from signing our agreements and breaking them. And to the specific language, "is a thief", I would argue that individuals accepting money and agreeing to repay losses in the future with winnings (makeup)...and then finding a way to not hold that part up of their agreement is stealing. They are saying "I accept this money from you, but I won't repay losses with future winnings because I'm going to break your agreement and you can't stake me".

With regard to Konstantin:
We staked him originally just like everyone at 50/50 + MU. He signed our agreement and we both agreed on terms. He used our funds to play off stake games totaling $3k. We originally cut him and asked for a repayment plan as per our agreement. He declined and a site went up.

We later came to an agreement to stake him again. He recorded a video admitting his mistakes and understood clearly our terms.

He did not meet his 500 games the first month. He explained the $4.50 180mans did not load as fast as we had thought, and we agreed. We moved him up.

Fast forward two months, and he is not updating his rail. He missed what he agreed upon for July with both videos and games played.

A guy who is asking for us to send him money every day and not updating his rail, not meeting his end of our agreement, has had an issue with us previously, and has had issues with at least two other backers was enough. We cut him again as per our agreement and are asking for everything repaid.

To me, this is analogous to a student plagiarizing an english paper. Said student could be expelled but the professor gives them another chance. It's a 5k word paper, need 5 sources. The kid comes back with a new paper that is 4k words and has 4 sources.

That's an enormous slap in the face and unacceptable. Is it close? Of course. But once you mess up and are given a second chance, you don't get to continually mess up and do things "almost good enough".

I'd also like to add that those terms were in place not only for the stake, but as a measure of moving him up in stakes. We GUARANTEED to move him up in stakes every 30 days (on a set schedule) if he met our terms. We can't be relaxed with that. We can't take him back, have him come up short on the terms, and then move him up. Likewise, keeping him and giving him ANOTHER chance the next 30 days is out of the question at this point.

spot on alex

How would he even have money to play offstake when he's 11k in MU & looking for stakes? He's busto. I would understand if he played 50cents or 1$ tourneys but real stake tourneys? No way.

Yeah that's an excellent post and it's difficult to argue with any of it. Thanks for the detailed response.