IPoker NLHE Tournament, ($€2.73+€0.27), t5000/t10000/t1000 blinds, 3 handed, 50%/30%/20% payouts
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{Tournament|IPoker|€2.73+€0.27||5000|10000|1000|Fu ll Table}
BTN: t189684 17 BBs{Player|BTN|189684|Fold|0}
SB: t63806 5.8 BBs{Player|SB|63806|RaiseTo|62806|Average|76|76}
Hero: t109010 9.9 BBs{Player|Hero|109010|Jd|Ts}

Preflop: Hero is BB with JT
1 fold, SB raises to t62806 (42+), Hero?

1st 177
2nd 117
34d 88

Should I be calling this down?

Opponent calling ranges when hero pushes:
SB (42+)

I might ship with that hand or even worse if I was the SB in that spot given how short his stack is, but I'd lay that down and look to ship it either next hand or soon after. I'm still in 2nd if I fold. Probably close call given how wide your villains range is.

no.

You want to be the open-shover with hands like this. Not the caller.

Would prolly call if villain had less than 4 BB's.

This. What range would we call with?

Anyone have the icmizer can check how wide he needs to be fore $ev correct call please?
I know ideally you want to be the shover, but he's probably pretty wide and it's 5.8bb, and there is almost 2bb in pot already.

I would be folding here.

Fold unless you think he's shoving his whole range here from previous reads. What do you think is his shoving range?

Any pair,any ace, any broadway, suited connecters,suited gappers, q9,k5+ k2sk3sk4s etc.

icm says its a call which isn't surprising:
http://www.holdemresources.net/hr/sn...3806&s3=109010

Op we really need reads. If he's an unknown which he shouldn't be at this stage of the tourney or if he's really fishy with gaps in his stats or limps a lot we can assume he doesn't evn know about nash.

The problem is most villians don't even consider nash so cc with nash is pointless. If this is the case then more often than not they are shoving to narrow. I see this a lot live especially. So our cc range needs to be narrower than what nash suggests. We are likely break even on a call needing 40-45% ... I guess we likely have that but given payouts and villians are folding too often or too narrow versus our push ranges there's more value in folding here with 10bb stack and shoving most buttons and small blinds...
His shove range is probably ~30-40% (or less) which would put us calling between 10-15%

Reads would be nice, but readless I pretty much snap it.

i also plan on calling. any read that hes decent at all (which you should obv have by now) i would call.

esp folding here you are basically even stacked, "big" stack should be able to shove often very wide and id be surprised if a good % of time you dont find a much better spot here

It really does depend on what u think he's shoving with, what % of their range are they shoving from the sb. The range u have given above, it's a call.

These are the spot's i struggle with tbh , and sometimes i'll lay this down against more tighter opponents that don't shove very wide. however any decent player will be shoving wide from the sb no matter what , and that's 60% of hands i'd say.


now my question is if they are shoving 60% of hands , we need to call with 41% of hands right to make it profitable?

like i said this what i struggle with , so if anyone can help me , that'll be great!