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05-25-2015 , 12:07 PM

Nal

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PokerStars - $3+$0.30|25/50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 100.32 BB (VPIP: 23.53, PFR: 14.71, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 35)
MP: 38.8 BB (VPIP: 24.14, PFR: 17.24, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 30)
CO: 65.44 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 11.90, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 42)
BTN: 61.5 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
Hero (SB): 60.54 BB
BB: 80.76 BB (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 35)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 2

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 2.5 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (9 BB, 3 players) J

Hero checks, BB checks, MP checks

Turn: (9 BB, 3 players) K

Hero checks, BB checks, MP bets 4.5 BB, Hero calls 4.5 BB, fold

River: (18 BB, 2 players) A

Hero checks, MP bets 18 BB, Hero ?

Really weird line by V and felt this bomb on the river was massively polarizing.
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05-25-2015 , 01:20 PM

nonsimplesimon

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Lets start with a 3b pre and cbet otf. Calling versus a single agro open in the worst position with a dominated ace blocker is the nut worst option pre. I recommend working on your 3b game.

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05-25-2015 , 01:37 PM

Nal

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Originally Posted by nonsimplesimon

Lets start with a 3b pre and cbet otf. Calling versus a single agro open in the worst position with a dominated ace blocker is the nut worst option pre. I recommend working on your 3b game.

Litterally realised straight away i should of 3b pre and that i played it v bad.

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05-25-2015 , 08:42 PM

RalphWaldoEmerson

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Originally Posted by nonsimplesimon

Calling versus a single agro open in the worst position with a dominated ace blocker is the nut worst option pre.

this.

as played, I would fold. psb otr seems more like a v-bet trying to look like a bluff than an actual bluff. reason is since V reps Ax well he shouldn't need to bet more than 1/2 pot or w/e to get you to fold your weak sdv, so I think his bluffs size smaller bc smaller sizing accomplishes the same thing, if that makes sense.

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05-25-2015 , 08:48 PM

Bartley

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Originally Posted by nonsimplesimon

Lets start with a 3b pre and cbet otf. Calling versus a single agro open in the worst position with a dominated ace blocker is the nut worst option pre. I recommend working on your 3b game.

Sorry if this is a terrible question, but why is flatting this bet so terrible? Is folding > 3b?

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05-25-2015 , 08:59 PM

RalphWaldoEmerson

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Originally Posted by Bartley

Sorry if this is a terrible question, but why is flatting this bet so terrible? Is folding > 3b?

because

a) when we flat hands in the SB we are likely going to go to the flop strictly oop vs. two players (BB flats a lot)

b) A2 is dominated by all the Ax in V's range and thus is susceptible to very high reverse implied odds.

Whether folding is better than 3b is totally V-dependent and dynamic-dependent. In general, A2s is almost always a fold preflop from the SB.

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05-26-2015 , 12:11 AM

Dragons_Egg

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Fold or 3b pre.

As played, lead the turn.

River.... Don't know.

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05-26-2015 , 03:48 PM

DoTheMath

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Villain's line doesn't look weird for AJ, < 2 spades.

Fold Pre.

As played, fold flop.

As played, lead turn , or c/c

As played, river depends on reads. Could he be bluffing 1/3 of the time? Coud he think he's ahead w/o an A?

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