Hello JIT,
Thanks for the software first of all.
I did notice something that might be off if you are looking to push from the SB (ICM excluded), and wanted to ask about it:
It seems that the calculation always takes into account that we are not from the blinds. by doing that it bloats the pot more than it really is.
For example, let's say if we have 400 effective stacks from the sb, and blinds are 10-20 with no ante.
Your calculation takes into account that if we shove and win the pot we will have 830 in our stack. when actually we will have 800.
I'll give a more specific example:
Let's say we have 400 on the SB when blinds are 10/20.
We have Pocket 4's and villain has the 20% calling range that you defined. Pushbot Rev 4.2 will give us an M of 14.0 (we started with 13.3):
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An M of 14.0 means a stack of 420 in this case.
But when I did the simple EV calculation it did not fit:
44 stands on 46.035% vs Villain's calling range:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 46.035% 45.42% 00.61% 1189969368 16078350.00 { 44 }
Hand 1: 53.965% 53.35% 00.61% 1397699052 16078350.00 { 22+, A2s+, K9s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, A8o+, KJo+ }
So 20% of the time we will get called-> EV is 0.2*0.46035*
800=73.656
80% of the time we take the blinds (the big blind basically), hence our stack will be 420. so-> 0.8*
420=336.
EV= 73.656+336=409.656
a stack of 409.656 has an M of 13.7, not 14.0 like the Pushbot Rev 4.2 indicates.
In fact, if I make the calculation assuming that I'm not in the blinds (meaning, that if we shove and win- our final stack will be
830=400*2+10+20) I will get the result shown on the Pushbot:
20% of the time we will get called-> EV is 0.2*0.46035*
830=76.4181
80% of the time we take both of the blinds, hence our stack will be
430. so-> 0.8*
430=344.
EV= 76.4181+344=420.151. that is an M of 14.0.
So the Pushbot is always assuming we have dead blinds when we shove.
I play HU hyper-turbo SNG, and this means I'm always pushing from the blinds. so I find this problematic for me :-)
But I assume other people might be using it for the same purposes
Is my calculation wrong? Do you have a solution to this in the excel sheet?
If not, does anyone have a spreadsheet that deals with this?
Thanks in advance.