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Old 06-22-2012, 11:21 AM   #1
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Two pair vs. shove on monotone flop - deep in $1,10 6-max turbo

No big history vs. villain except he tried to bluff me on the river orbits before this hand happened in a similar situation. he had A-high.

is a shove there better than a bet pre-flop? i've seen people say it's better to b/f if you have more than 18 bb's, but i'm not sure.
what's best in this situation?
also, what it's best after how I played?

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Poker Stars $1.00+$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t5000/t10000 Blinds + t1250 - 5 players - View hand 1803707
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CO: t280356 M = 13.19
BTN: t104065 M = 4.90
Hero (SB): t191693 M = 9.02
BB: t340283 M = 16.01
UTG: t364131 M = 17.14

Pre Flop: (t21250) Hero is SB with 5 Q
3 folds, Hero raises to t20333, BB calls t10333

Flop: (t46916) Q A 5 (2 players)
Hero bets t30000, BB raises to t280000
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Old 06-22-2012, 11:27 AM   #2
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Re: Two pair vs. shove on monotone flop - deep in $1,10 6-max turbo

i would probably just fold pre, its close....as played i snap it off because he can have any type of one club hand, AK....he should never have QQ, AA, AQ....he could possibly have 55 but idk, i think you have enough equity on this board with 2p to call the shove
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Old 06-22-2012, 11:54 AM   #3
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Re: Two pair vs. shove on monotone flop - deep in $1,10 6-max turbo

get it in and be happy about it.

this is 6max, BvB and with dynamic and you already have 2 pair
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Old 06-22-2012, 12:14 PM   #4
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Re: Two pair vs. shove on monotone flop - deep in $1,10 6-max turbo

Giii otf he's gonna have the flush rarely enough to make ur call profitable and you have a blocker against a set of 5's.
At 19bbs its not bad to r/f but i go w hands that flops better in case i get called.

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Old 06-23-2012, 01:07 AM   #5
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Re: Two pair vs. shove on monotone flop - deep in $1,10 6-max turbo

Fold pre if he's gona flat a lot.
Flop is a no-brainer b/c
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Old 06-23-2012, 07:04 AM   #6
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Re: Two pair vs. shove on monotone flop - deep in $1,10 6-max turbo

I'm never folding Q5 pre in sb v bb situation. Id Call your ahead here too often to fold.
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Old 06-23-2012, 08:57 AM   #7
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Re: Two pair vs. shove on monotone flop - deep in $1,10 6-max turbo

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I'm never folding Q5 pre in sb v bb situation. Id Call your ahead here too often to fold.
It's worse than an average hand. and pretty much an underdog to any calling range par the 100% to which it's about 50-50. care to explain why you're so attached to it?
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Old 06-23-2012, 08:58 AM   #8
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Re: Two pair vs. shove on monotone flop - deep in $1,10 6-max turbo

Fold Pre

As played never folding BvB. So many Ax in their range.
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Old 06-23-2012, 10:13 AM   #9
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Re: Two pair vs. shove on monotone flop - deep in $1,10 6-max turbo

fold or jam pre

as hand played get it in and be happy about Ax is doubtful so we prob against fd's
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Old 06-24-2012, 07:32 AM   #10
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Re: Two pair vs. shove on monotone flop - deep in $1,10 6-max turbo

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Poker Stars $1.00+$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t5000/t10000 Blinds + t1250 - 5 players
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CO: t280356 M = 13.19
BTN: t104065 M = 4.90
Hero (SB): t191693 M = 9.02
BB: t340283 M = 16.01
UTG: t364131 M = 17.14

Pre Flop: (t21250) Hero is SB with 5 Q
3 folds, Hero raises to t20333, BB calls t10333

Flop: (t46916) Q A 5 (2 players)
Hero bets t30000, BB raises to t280000,
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Old 06-25-2012, 06:50 AM   #11
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Re: Two pair vs. shove on monotone flop - deep in $1,10 6-max turbo

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It's worse than an average hand. and pretty much an underdog to any calling range par the 100% to which it's about 50-50. care to explain why you're so attached to it?
If its below an average hand thats news for me, must only be just below. I can think of a lot of trash below this I would fold. Im an aggressive player and at $1 level pre deep -ev to fold ( a lot of nits), and you shud be able to outplay most villains on soft boards.
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Old 06-25-2012, 06:57 AM   #12
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Re: Two pair vs. shove on monotone flop - deep in $1,10 6-max turbo

I play it the same except pre, we got outs to the nutz.
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Old 06-25-2012, 10:49 AM   #13
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Re: Two pair vs. shove on monotone flop - deep in $1,10 6-max turbo

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If its below an average hand thats news for me, must only be just below. I can think of a lot of trash below this I would fold. Im an aggressive player and at $1 level pre deep -ev to fold ( a lot of nits), and you shud be able to outplay most villains on soft boards.
folding is 0EV not -EV
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Old 06-25-2012, 02:02 PM   #14
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Re: Two pair vs. shove on monotone flop - deep in $1,10 6-max turbo

did you really post this hand because you think you made a mistake? it seems like you understand you got coolered
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Old 06-25-2012, 02:34 PM   #15
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Offsuit queen/baby is a piece of **** hand. In this particular situation I am mucking it pre.
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