just ran into this spot, hm is acting up but here's the basics

blind 300/600

hero 52k
Vivian 68k
70 ish people from bubble

utg+1 bets 1200
co (me) raises to 3700
utg 4 bets to 6700(weird i thought)...

i call IP

flop is 7h8h9c

utg checks
i bet 8700
utg shoves

*what could ever call here, brilliant shove an i folded

lol i have JsJd

not a tough spot I'm 99% sure this guy has aces or kings easy fold. I would prob consider folding to the 4 bet pre esp if player is tight and has not 4 bet previously.

did you 3bet with the intention of calling a 4bet or did you just call because you got priced in?
one of the reasons i prefer to flat vs. unknowns is the above example.
as played calling seems alright/ish because of great implieds.

the bet OTT looks a bit thin to me and kind of compulsive. you're almost never getting called by worse and is reason number 2 why i don't like 3betting JJ vs. unknowns when deepstacked (even ip)
as played you just have to worry about AhKh here so... easy muck!

yes i guess its and easy muck, i guess i was just looking for any reason to hero call

I see QQ+ plus leading here instead of c/shoving

Don't flat pre if you think he has QQ+.....either GII or fold.
As played I peel OTF here. Turning your hand into a bluff catcher...you only beat TT and bluffs.

mostly just flatting pre but depends on dynamics and players behind

how valueable would be your stack if you fold? lots of soft spots on the table?
average stacksize atm?

there are alot of factors you are not telling, so no idea if its a call or fold for you.

**I was 9th out of 84 people
he was 5th

**average stack(and im guessing) around 20k

**finishing itm was more important to me then gambling on a less than 50/50(imo)
for the chip lead with 80 peeps left

**It was just 1 of those hands that i was trying to apply stuff ive seen pros online bluff at, because its a hard call for anybody,and pick off w/ a hero call, but then i realized that this is only a $3.30 tourny and pretty str8 forward

**my $3700 3b then his $6700 4b OP, i still think he has AA,AhKh,AhTh,TT,
weighted heavy on AA b/c of the min raise , then lite 4 bet

furo chexking back flop in 4b pot agter his weird line + good board for us or Im r/o-ed?

The fact that you know this, is reason for me to think that you are concentrating too much on it.

Yup you can fold, and yup you can flat and evaluate the action, but whatever my action would be depend on reads, and dynamics.

at this stage with your stack i'm mostly just reducing variance and dont look for ways to play big pots vs other bigstacks unless i have solid reads / a monster.
this works for me pretty well since i get into alot of spots with a big stack where i can apply pressure, for example vs medium to small stacks.
you gain alot of chips/win alot of small pots without risking stack utility.
in MTTs there are just soooo many soft spots, even at higher buyins.
but especially at these micro-tourneys your edge is so big and your main goal (as a winning player with a bigstack at this stage) should be reducing variance.

now lets look at your hand. you 3b JJ without reads vs one of the stacks that cover you. for my game approach that would be a huge mistake since i increase the variance of the spot, i increase the variance in my stacksize, i increase the variance of the chips i can gain in future spots.
if you had a medium (~30BB) or even small stack (~15BB) you obv 3b it to gain chips to get a big stack, there is not much value in reducing the variance since you dont know how many good hands you will get the next hour, or how many good spots you will get in general.

i dont want to talk much about postflop since i think preflop is way more important here. imo you should not be in this spot
and imo you should not get it in with ~twice the average stack left.

other players disagree and look for every +cEV spot/isolate every spot.
you can ask them what to do postflop as played.