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Old 08-06-2012, 12:14 PM   #1
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TT vs 4-bet spazzer with history

Got this tricky hand just now. We have been playing a couple of hands together and I managed to win a decent pot against him during the rebuy period and he also won one against me KQ < 66 aipf. Didn't see him 4-bet or 3-bet even once for that matter. Villain is running 42/27/65 over 36 hands. Im lost here. What do we do? I guess fold or push is our only choice.




    Poker Stars, $2 Buy-in (60/120 blinds, 15 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13671952

    Hero (CO): 12,637 (105.3 bb)
    BTN: 8,607 (71.7 bb)
    SB: 5,659 (47.2 bb)
    BB: 3,470 (28.9 bb)
    UTG+1: 6,600 (55 bb)
    UTG+2: 3,387 (28.2 bb)
    MP1: 7,150 (59.6 bb)
    MP2: 5,480 (45.7 bb)
    MP3: 5,485 (45.7 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with T T
    4 folds, MP3 raises to 240, Hero raises to 720, BTN raises to 2,520,



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    Old 08-06-2012, 12:25 PM   #2
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    Re: TT vs 4-bet spazzer with history

    anything on opener??
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    Old 08-06-2012, 12:32 PM   #3
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    Re: TT vs 4-bet spazzer with history

    Still at this table, he's 18/9/100 over 58 hands.
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    Old 08-06-2012, 01:28 PM   #4
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    Re: TT vs 4-bet spazzer with history

    why would he spazz out here?
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    Old 08-06-2012, 04:36 PM   #5
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    Re: TT vs 4-bet spazzer with history

    Folding - I dont think he is light here. Just because he is loose pre - I dont nec. think he 3 or 4 betting light. You have a sweet stack. I mean if you shove - what hands are you hoping to see here? AK/AQ is prob best case scenario?
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    Old 08-06-2012, 04:46 PM   #6
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    Re: TT vs 4-bet spazzer with history

    why wouldnt you show action up til you again?
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    Old 08-06-2012, 05:08 PM   #7
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    Re: TT vs 4-bet spazzer with history

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    Folding - I dont think he is light here. Just because he is loose pre - I dont nec. think he 3 or 4 betting light. You have a sweet stack. I mean if you shove - what hands are you hoping to see here? AK/AQ is prob best case scenario?
    This is my thought here. And since we have seen no 3-bets so far he, despite being so loose I guess it's nuts he has this time.

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    why wouldnt you show action up til you again?
    What I did there was folding?
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    Old 08-07-2012, 02:35 AM   #8
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    Re: TT vs 4-bet spazzer with history

    Probably flatting the first time vs a 18/9. Easy fold to the 4bet as played

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    What I did there was folding?
    He means why didn't you show MP3s action in OP.
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    Old 08-07-2012, 06:43 AM   #9
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    Re: TT vs 4-bet spazzer with history

    Changed my thinking on this recently - in a micro dont think spewing this in pre is bad at all - tards show up with worse enough of the time to give you the equity

    Cant really back that up with any evidence tho but 42/27/65 not playing rationally so hard to range
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    Old 08-07-2012, 06:59 AM   #10
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    Re: TT vs 4-bet spazzer with history

    Why not just flat pre?

    If you know he is a spazz, then you know he can't actually have QQ+ a decent precentage of the time OTB.

    Pot control....I wanna see the flop.
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    Old 08-07-2012, 08:24 AM   #11
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    Re: TT vs 4-bet spazzer with history

    I am flatting first time, but as played I am folding. He obv likes his hand very much.
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    Old 08-07-2012, 01:28 PM   #12
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    Re: TT vs 4-bet spazzer with history

    If you guys are flatting this pre - what range are you 3 betting?
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    Old 08-07-2012, 01:41 PM   #13
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    Re: TT vs 4-bet spazzer with history

    I like 3bet/folding. All the guys that want to 5bet this presume villain will spazz very often.
    Plus 36 hands is not enough to even be sure that he is hyper LAG, even less so that he will 4bet light.

    Even the retards are dealt JJ+ once in a while.
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    Old 08-07-2012, 02:09 PM   #14
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    Re: TT vs 4-bet spazzer with history

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    If you guys are flatting this pre - what range are you 3 betting?
    JJ+ I'm tight, but I do 3bet TT just not 100% of the time in this spot.
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