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Old 02-07-2012, 01:07 PM   #1
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TT with 8BB against a regs 3x open UTg

    Poker Stars, $0.45 Buy-in (75/150 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11811132

    MP: 1,990 (13.3 bb)
    CO: 4,930 (32.9 bb)
    BTN: 1,138 (7.6 bb)
    SB: 1,250 (8.3 bb)
    Hero (BB): 1,289 (8.6 bb)
    UTG: 4,254 (28.4 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with T T
    UTG raises to 450, 4 folds

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    I can't really see worse than 99+,AQ here opening the Utg. So is this a clear fold considering our small stack?
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    Old 02-07-2012, 02:33 PM   #2
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    Re: TT with 8BB against a regs 3x open UTg

    i think you gotta get it in and hope for a flip
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    Old 02-07-2012, 02:50 PM   #3
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    Re: TT with 8BB against a regs 3x open UTg

    Fist pump shove.

    Hes opening much wider than 99+,AQ at 6 max.
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    Old 02-07-2012, 03:18 PM   #4
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    Re: TT with 8BB against a regs 3x open UTg

    Absolutely shove here.
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    Old 02-07-2012, 03:42 PM   #5
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    Re: TT with 8BB against a regs 3x open UTg

    His opening range is probably 56s+,22+,Ax,K8s+,K9o+,Q9+ some 1gappers/2gappers.
    Especially when you have been playing nitty he will open like this I think.
    ->shove it.
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    Old 02-07-2012, 04:11 PM   #6
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    Re: TT with 8BB against a regs 3x open UTg

    shove,especially if hes regs
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    Old 02-07-2012, 08:11 PM   #7
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    Re: TT with 8BB against a regs 3x open UTg

    Quote:
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    His opening range is probably 56s+,22+,Ax,K8s+,K9o+,Q9+ some 1gappers/2gappers.
    Especially when you have been playing nitty he will open like this I think.
    ->shove it.
    i was playing nitty on that one. However i didn't consider that and the fact that we're were 6 handed at the moment.

    I did shove and he called so that's why i wasn't sure if i did the right thing
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    Old 02-08-2012, 12:35 AM   #8
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    Re: TT with 8BB against a regs 3x open UTg

    Even if he is only opening that tight (which he isn't) TT is still 44% against that range and the pot odds would require 43% equity, it is still a shove.
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    Old 02-08-2012, 01:20 AM   #9
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    Re: TT with 8BB against a regs 3x open UTg

    PLus, add the fact that if his range is just a touch wider like AJ and 77 you are a favorite
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    Old 02-08-2012, 01:38 AM   #10
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    Re: TT with 8BB against a regs 3x open UTg

    6max? can't fold that, his opening range I think depends more on your reads.
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    Old 02-08-2012, 05:14 AM   #11
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    Re: TT with 8BB against a regs 3x open UTg

    hes opeing ALOT wider, wsp if hes good.
    snap it.
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    Old 02-08-2012, 05:40 AM   #12
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    Re: TT with 8BB against a regs 3x open UTg

    Anyone like a stop n go here? Or is that too 2005??? If we flat pre we have a less than pot sized shove on any flop.
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    Old 02-08-2012, 06:38 AM   #13
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    Re: TT with 8BB against a regs 3x open UTg

    TT is way too good for stopngo, as you fold out some pocketpairs on the flop, if i'd do it i'd prefer having 22
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    Old 02-08-2012, 10:00 AM   #14
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    Re: TT with 8BB against a regs 3x open UTg

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    His opening range is probably 56s+,22+,Ax,K8s+,K9o+,Q9+ some 1gappers/2gappers.
    Especially when you have been playing nitty he will open like this I think.
    ->shove it.
    with those stack sizes behind him his range will most likely be way tighter imo, maybe something like 66, AT, KQ and hes never r/f here (unless perhaps CO comes over the top).
    still a shove nevertheless

    actually since its a 50c tourny i dont know, probably gave villain to much credit for taking stacksizes into consideration...
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    Old 02-08-2012, 10:18 AM   #15
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    Re: TT with 8BB against a regs 3x open UTg

    here i recognize the problem that many have, i assign people ranges based on my range in the specific spots (adjusting them based on their image etc)
    So the fact that i'm so bad short handed really makes them a bit impossible to read for now...
    Especially that range 56s+,22+,Ax,K8s+,K9o+,Q9+, i'd never, ever put him on that one.
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