Not sure about my play. I think that the turn is a scare card most of the time and I should play it differently.
V is playing 33/18 over 80 hands. Imo his min 3bet reps a fairly strong hand JJ+ AK.
Any thoughts?
Thanks.

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $10 Buy-in (60/120 blinds, 15 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
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UTG+1: 1,910 (15.9 bb)
UTG+2: 5,346 (44.6 bb)
MP1: 4,215 (35.1 bb)
MP2: 4,042 (33.7 bb)
MP3: 1,995 (16.6 bb)
CO: 5,707 (47.6 bb)
BTN: 14,062 (117.2 bb)
SB: 1,553 (12.9 bb)
Hero (BB): 5,445 (45.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J J
5 folds, CO raises to 240, BTN raises to 360, SB folds, Hero calls 240, CO calls 120

Flop: (1,275) 3 J 4 (3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets 664, Hero calls 664, CO folds

Turn: (2,603) A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets 934, Hero raises to 2,280, BTN raises to 3,626, Hero raises to 4,406 and is all-in, BTN folds

disagree that BTN 3b is a tight range given his stats. I 4bet this.

as played if you think his range is what you put him on you should be c/raising flop, if not donking it.

totally agree with this. I'd c/r the flop.

I agree with c/r or dbetting assuming his tight range. My preflop read doesnt follow my postflop play... I tend to make that mistake quiet often.

i can see flatting or 3b/c if they are active.
i'd c/r the flop as well. 1450ish

By c/r the flop aren't we polarising our range to JJ+? I can't really see Hero flatting suited connectors / one gappers vs an aggressive V OOP with a min 3bet.

I agree 4bet this flop with how active V is.

villains don't think that hard. and we still have AQcc/AKcc type hands in our range. villain can't even rule out AJ.

Fair point, didn't think of the other club combo's we could have.

I like donking here because villain is not always gonna cbet into 2 opponents that often..as played, I like c/r better. turn is std given flop action.

Pre I could go either way...I don't lead this almost always

I think I call a lot of pocket pairs, and hands like AQs+ in the BB vs that min 3b. It's basically like we are calling a min open if we were in another position since it is only 240 to call..

I prefer to call with JJ here unless I have a little more info on the villain. I would 4b if we were a little more shallow, or if I had info that the villain loves to get it in with pocket pairs lower than JJ or just spazzes out a lot. I think when we are this deep with only 80 hands on a villain, we will be behind his 5bet range a lot.


I think if we call JJ here, we need to call with a lot of pocket pairs to balance out our range, even though it's not really balancing if we are just adding similar hands lol. I think our hand is rather transparent here when we overcall, but villains are typically always bad. They don't pay enough attention, and will just put you on AK lol.

I do like to c/r this flop because I am probably not getting another bet out of him if he has air. If we donk, we get 0 value from his air hands. I think it's better to check, allow him to bet, then raise because we get value out of a lot more hands. If he continues with us, he will have overpairs, Jx, 66-TT. We can continue to fire at him on the following streets. Check/raising allows us to get value out of bluffs, and also if he has a hand, we will still get value out of it. It's obviously fine to get it in on the turn, he can easily have AJ, 33, 22, AK, KJ.. Although, he probably has AA since you posted this hand

Nice try, but V folded to AI OTT... And showed a Q.

I agree with c/r OTF. Seems the most profitable line to take.