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Some spots from MTT sesh tonight... Some spots from MTT sesh tonight...

07-19-2017 , 02:13 AM
H1: I think this is a pretty easy squeeze/jam with 15bb?

    WPN, $20 Buy-in (300/600 blinds, 60 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
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    Hero (SB): 9,080 (15.1 bb)
    BB: 17,671 (29.5 bb)
    UTG+1: 37,421 (62.4 bb)
    UTG+2: 11,795 (19.7 bb)
    MP1: 23,830 (39.7 bb)
    MP2: 8,680 (14.5 bb)
    MP3: 17,410 (29 bb)
    CO: 35,360 (58.9 bb)
    BTN: 23,652 (39.4 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 4 4
    4 folds, MP3 raises to 1,200, CO calls 1,200, BTN folds, Hero raises to 9,020 and is all-in, 2 folds, CO calls 7,820

    Spoiler:
    Flop: (20,380) 9 A Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    Turn: (20,380) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    River: (20,380) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Results: 20,380 pot
    Doesn't matter...


    H2: Read on Villain is TAG type player, so I put him on a fairly narrow range here. In cash I flat or 3b this all day, but I'm not sure what the best move in an MTT is. I feel like folding is awful, but I was worried about a shove from CO/BTN and a re-shove from Villain if we flat, and I don't feel this hand is quite good enough to always 3b from MP. Is that analysis flawed? I think I 3b fairly large to isolate with AQs, but AQo not so sure.

      WPN, $12 Buy-in (125/250 blinds, 30 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
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      SB: 8,754 (35 bb)
      BB: 13,772 (55.1 bb)
      UTG+2: 8,298 (33.2 bb)
      MP1: 10,615 (42.5 bb)
      MP2: 3,600 (14.4 bb)
      Hero (MP3): 9,754 (39 bb)
      CO: 2,115 (8.5 bb)
      BTN: 2,715 (10.9 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q A
      UTG+2 raises to 555, 7 folds

      Spoiler:
      Results: 865 pot
      UTG+2 mucked and won 865 (585 net)


      H3: I 3b AKo vs EP open, we are fairly deep and whif a wet flop. Villain seems slightly loose/passive. When he floats flop I assume he does have some combo draws in his range, some middling PPs and overpairs as well. Turn card isn't great but not too scary really. Should we double barrel here or just give up?

        WPN, $12 Buy-in (100/200 blinds, 25 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 7 Players
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        SB: 2,880 (14.4 bb)
        BB: 3,815 (19.1 bb)
        MP1: 8,430 (42.2 bb)
        MP2: 9,984 (49.9 bb)
        MP3: 8,172 (40.9 bb)
        CO: 10,665 (53.3 bb)
        Hero (BTN): 12,677 (63.4 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BTN with A K
        MP1 folds, MP2 raises to 400, 2 folds, Hero raises to 1,350, 2 folds, MP2 calls 950

        Flop: (3,175) 2 T J (2 players)
        MP2 checks, Hero bets 1,888, MP2 calls 1,888

        Turn: (6,951) 8 (2 players)
        MP2 checks, Hero checks

        River: (6,951) 4 (2 players)
        MP2 checks, Hero checks

        Spoiler:
        Results: 6,951 pot
        Final Board: 2 T J 8 4
        MP2 showed 9 8 and won 6,951 (3,688 net)
        Hero mucked A K and lost (-3,263 net)


        H4: This one feels spewy Similar situation as H3. V1 (UTG+1) seems like a decent reg, V2 (+2) is fishy. I elect to squeeze here, pretty standard I think pre. I struggle here with postflop play in 3b pots that I whiff. I don't think I can bluff catch river. Should I cbet flop and give up if we don't improve on the turn?

          WPN, $20 Buy-in (100/200 blinds, 20 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

          SB: 6,920 (34.6 bb)
          BB: 19,625 (98.1 bb)
          UTG+1: 9,740 (48.7 bb)
          UTG+2: 20,709 (103.5 bb)
          MP1: 10,000 (50 bb)
          MP2: 9,755 (48.8 bb)
          MP3: 19,517 (97.6 bb)
          CO: 12,407 (62 bb)
          Hero (BTN): 8,860 (44.3 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is BTN with K A
          UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to 400, MP1 calls 400, 3 folds, Hero raises to 1,400, 2 folds, UTG+2 calls 1,000, MP1 calls 1,000

          Flop: (4,680) 9 J 4 (3 players)
          UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks

          Turn: (4,680) 9 (3 players)
          UTG+2 bets 2,340, MP1 folds, Hero calls 2,340

          River: (9,360) T (2 players)
          UTG+2 bets 5,100, Hero folds

          Spoiler:
          Results: 9,360 pot
          Final Board: 9 J 4 9 T
          UTG+2 mucked and won 9,360 (5,600 net)
          Hero mucked K A and lost (-3,760 net)
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          07-19-2017 , 02:59 AM
          H1 call
          H2 fine
          H3 sizing is a bit big but okay
          H4 fold turn
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          07-19-2017 , 03:03 AM
          H1 fold prob, it's close tho.

          H2 just flat

          H3 3b a little smaller, you're IP and wanna go like 5.5x over a 2x typically

          H4 Fold turn, he's not really bluffing into 2 people after you 3b often, if ever.
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          07-19-2017 , 03:04 AM
          We can't flat 44 in the sb on a 15 blind stack. Jamming is infinitely better than flatting and folding is better than flatting.
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          07-19-2017 , 03:18 AM
          **** my bad mixed up H1 and H2.

          squeeze with 44 is fine IMO and call with AQ vs tight open
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          07-19-2017 , 03:24 AM
          H1: Shove or fold

          H2: Flat

          H3:8 bad card for our range and good for his. Think check is best.

          H4: Fold turn, would go bigger pre
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          07-19-2017 , 03:52 AM
          Can't understand why people would flat AQo, it flops way too horrible to see three cards without the betting lead. This seems like an easy 3-bet/fold because you block a lot of his 4-bet range.
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          07-19-2017 , 04:44 AM
          It's ok to mix in things with the bottom/top of our ranges so for example AQo would be near the bottom of our 3b range so flatting is fine most of the time.
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          07-19-2017 , 04:47 AM
          H4 3 bet is 2 small raise to like 1800-2000. bad flop for you and better for his calling range fold turn. check flop is ok or bet flop and give up
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          07-19-2017 , 09:04 AM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by killer_kill
          It's ok to mix in things with the bottom/top of our ranges so for example AQo would be near the bottom of our 3b range so flatting is fine most of the time.
          AQo feels way too tight to be at the bottom of our 3-bet range, we have to mix in weaker hands also, like AT, 99, KJ to balance it out so we can rep a wide range of flops.
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          07-19-2017 , 09:32 AM
          1) Shoving is okay but I probably opt for folding. Your fold equity against CO isn't great and 44 is never ahead of a calling range (and is destroyed if they both call). This is one of those spots where I'd rather have JTs or a blocker like A3s.

          2) Fold. I don't see how you can flat against a tag utg open in MP with a hand that is terrible multiway (lots of players behind) and doesn't stack up great against a tag utg opening range. Seems like a very high risk, low reward spot to me.

          3) Check behind. That's a much better flop for his range and you'll have a harder time pushing a loose-passive off his hand if he has anything. I don't want to get called and whiff the turn. One of your gutshot outs isn't even live (the Qc).

          4) Also check behind for similar reasons as hand 3 but even more so that it's multiway. MP1 has a perfect stack for x/shoving.

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          07-19-2017 , 01:33 PM
          Thanks for all the feedback!

          Quote:
          Originally Posted by killer_kill
          H1 fold prob, it's close tho.

          H2 just flat

          H3 3b a little smaller, you're IP and wanna go like 5.5x over a 2x typically

          H4 Fold turn, he's not really bluffing into 2 people after you 3b often, if ever.
          My 3b sizing in a tournament environment needs work. So when we are vs an open with no overcalls we size slightly smaller, but when we are squeezing we need to pump it up a bit more? I typically just 3x whatever the initial open was, maybe 4-5x if there are 1-2 overcalls.

          Quote:
          Originally Posted by daithianseo
          H4 3 bet is 2 small raise to like 1800-2000. bad flop for you and better for his calling range fold turn. check flop is ok or bet flop and give up
          Is there a good go-by I can use to figure out proper squeeze sizing? I assume the more callers behind the initial raiser the higher my 3b needs to be?

          Quote:
          Originally Posted by Kev1498
          AQo feels way too tight to be at the bottom of our 3-bet range, we have to mix in weaker hands also, like AT, 99, KJ to balance it out so we can rep a wide range of flops.
          I only have AQo at the bottom of my range here because of the 2 short stacks on the CO/BTN. I wasn't sure if that was correct or not, but my concern was a shove from one or both of those guys, and a possible reshove from EP raiser, which I don't think I'm ever calling off with anything less than QQ+, or AKs.
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          07-20-2017 , 12:09 AM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by Kev1498
          AQo feels way too tight to be at the bottom of our 3-bet range, we have to mix in weaker hands also, like AT, 99, KJ to balance it out so we can rep a wide range of flops.
          It's vs an UTG opener tho, obviously the range is adjusted vs later position raises. I'd prob be flatting most of my range here tbh tho and stick to more value 3b since we aren't going to get exploited here.

          Quote:
          Originally Posted by v1pe
          Thanks for all the feedback!



          My 3b sizing in a tournament environment needs work. So when we are vs an open with no overcalls we size slightly smaller, but when we are squeezing we need to pump it up a bit more? I typically just 3x whatever the initial open was, maybe 4-5x if there are 1-2 overcalls.
          Usually if someone opens and you're normal stack depth, I'd 3b to 5.5x~ total aprox with antes and position. If I'm oop I'd make it more like 6-7.5x in sb/BB and add a BB or so per caller. Also with hands that I kinda want to take down pre I'll go a bit bigger sometimes and lower with nutted hands but not enough that it's a huge difference. Like AKo is a good hand to squeeze and take it down/get heads up pre for example, but if we have KK/AA we're ok inducing more. Not to say we don't wanna induce ever with AKo obv.
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