Hello everbody. My first post on this forum

Thought it could be useful to review this spot since I can't tell if it's a good call or not. It's the final two tables of a tournament with a field of 1800 people. People have been playing kinda tight, I've played pretty aggressive so far (vpip22%,pfr 16%). Think it should be enough information so let's have a look at the action.



PokerStars Hand #173204294439: Tournament #1969088856, $1.00+$0.10 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXI (3600/7200) - 2017/07/18 15:01:21 ET
Table '1969088856 95' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: bobrisa (249103 in chips)
Seat 2: (HERO) (502180 in chips)
Seat 3: Sergeen (266360 in chips) 35BB (VPIP18%,PFR 9%)
Seat 4: Zignet 777 (108398 in chips)
Seat 6: bishbashbosh (153851 in chips) 21bb (VPIP13%,PFR10%)
Seat 8: oziel111 (380643 in chips)
Seat 9: CallmeAl101 (111476 in chips)
bobrisa: posts the ante 900
(HERO): posts the ante 900
Sergeen: posts the ante 900
Zignet 777: posts the ante 900
bishbashbosh: posts the ante 900
oziel111: posts the ante 900
CallmeAl101: posts the ante 900
(HERO): posts small blind 3600
Sergeen: posts big blind 7200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to (HERO) [Td Th]
Zignet 777: folds
bishbashbosh: raises 7812 to 15012
oziel111: folds
CallmeAl101: folds
bobrisa: folds
(HERO): raises 28188 to 43200
Sergeen: raises 222260 to 265460 and is all-in
bishbashbosh: folds
Hero:?

So here are my thoughts...

Reasons to call: TT is a really strong holding and i need to take risks to set up the win, it's overall a decent spot using this logic.

My 3bet might be percieved as weak by BB since i 3b the short stack. Altough i don't think this should be the reason for calling since it's unlikely the opponent think much of this (1 dollar tourney).

Reasons not to call: Fairly tight villain shoves 35bb after an open and a reraise. We are expecting to be flipping a lot and sometimes we are up against a bigger pair.

If we lose the flip we are down to 30bb and can't use our edge in the same way like we do with a big stack.

UTG+1 raise from ep with a 20bb stack. It's usually a strong range and BB should be aware of this when he 4b shoves.

Happy to hear your opinions on this spot.

From a pure ev perspective, you need 39% equity to call. You need villain to be shoving 99+/AQs/AK to get that equity.

So you have a guy with a PFR of only 9% who has cold 4b-shoved 35bb over your 3b on the final 2 tables. Do you think his range could possibly be that wide? All you have to do is take 99 out of his range and you're down to 35% equity.

Also factor in that you have a very healthy stack on the final 2 tables, which sets you up nicely for a FT run. Risking half of it in such a marginal spot seems crazy from an ICM perspective (even if ICM doesn't technically kick in yet).

So I would fold here.

I think another question worth discussing is whether you should have 3b in the first place against a fairly tight raiser opening in early position with a stack that is perfectly sized for 4b-shoving after you 3b.

Sent from my SM-G920W8 using Tapatalk

I don't hate the 3b some of the time here with TT although it's probably the very bottom of my 3b range in this spot. He has a very narrow range in utg +1 with 10% PFR stat. What is your primary reason for the 3b? Do you want to see a flop or are you trying to take it down here?

Can we elect to flat here? We are decently deep. I don't know...With TT there's not too many flops we hit that we are fist pumping. We are basically set mining which might not be too bad if the BB also flats. I am not confident I have the best hand on most boards, especially playing OOP. .

Easy fold after the over shove from another tight player. Not willing to get it in for my tournament life in this spot against this villian.

Sent from my ONEPLUS A3000 using Tapatalk

My intention with the 3b is to call it off against him. The hand will be too tricky to play out of position against a short stack so I rather avoid playing post flop and instead get it in. He never flat calls when I size it 3x so I hope for a fold or a flip for 25-30% of my stack. I'm sure he still opens 99 possibly 88 so best case he gets it in and we dominate, but I'm also happy to just flip.

3b fold is absolutely horrible IMO, might not even be worth to mention since it's kinda obvious.

I agree with 3b folding to the overshove even though it's not for my tournament life as you said. Somehow I found a call at the time and found out I was flipping against AKo. I've been playing high risk high reward strategy lately but I'm starting to doubt it in certain high variance spots, like this one. There is much more merit to playing a exploitable play style in super soft mtts like these, and gamble less. Especially when people are nitty in the late stage and we can steal blinds very frequently without anyone punishing the play.

Yes of course we call V1 shove over our 3b if the BB gets out of the way.

Agreed that you can call off the overshove if you prefer a higher variance play. I tend to prefer low variance in these small stakes MTTs.

I did misread the stack sizes though. I'm somewhat more likely to call given that we cover about 2:1, but I still prefer to protect my stack here and find a better spot the majority of the time.

Sent from my ONEPLUS A3000 using Tapatalk

Cry call