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10-18-2016 , 09:07 AM
888 Poker - 1800/3600 Ante 450 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 36.24 BB (VPIP: 30.43, PFR: 21.05, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 23)
UTG: 3.78 BB (VPIP: 14.27, PFR: 11.51, 3Bet Preflop: 6.35, Hands: 797)
UTG+1: 28.19 BB (VPIP: 17.12, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 7.50, Hands: 111)
MP: 11.49 BB (VPIP: 24.40, PFR: 20.10, 3Bet Preflop: 6.17, Hands: 210)
Hero (MP+1): 14.51 BB
CO: 8.38 BB
BTN: 58.03 BB (VPIP: 17.56, PFR: 13.48, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 280)
SB: 31.73 BB (VPIP: 16.26, PFR: 9.14, 3Bet Preflop: 1.68, Hands: 417)

8 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has J T

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 1.5 BB, BB calls 1 BB

Flop: (7 BB, 3 players) K T 8
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (7 BB, 3 players) 4
SB bets 4.44 BB, fold, fold

SB wins 7 BB

I hate this spot, because there is almost always another bet on the river, so i opted for the fold
second pair close to the bubble Quote
10-18-2016 , 12:10 PM
fold pre
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10-19-2016 , 05:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by onehandatatime
fold pre
^ This.

You hate these spots so don't put yourself in them.You're near the bubble with 14.5bb and your playing JTos in middle position?!

Just fold pre dude, no need to be opening this hand
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10-20-2016 , 06:00 PM
Folding pre is definitely reasonable, but as played we have to call turn. There are a lot of draws and the villian can be value betting worse.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Proudwalker
I hate this spot, because there is almost always another bet on the river
That is heavily dependent on the player and the river.
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10-20-2016 , 08:00 PM
This isn't a min open near the bubble with the exact stacks you have behind you. you are getting defended close to 100% by BB or button and they can put you in very tough spots pretty easily.


Best options
1. fold pre
2. Rip pre
3. min open
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10-20-2016 , 08:24 PM
14BB youre either shoving or folding but you shouldnt never be opening on this stack with hands like this. its debatable weather you should even be opening on this stack without it looking like the nuts.

close to the bubble should not be a factor

but this is an easy fold pre
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10-22-2016 , 04:54 AM
yes easy f pre
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