Hi guys,

I`m wondering what was the biggest downswing you ever experienced playing those games? What DS you can still call variation?

thanks,
S

Hello,

Who can help me on?

How many games I must have to move quietly from the 2,5$ 180 to the 3,5r or the 8$? (btw comes first the 3,5r or the 8$?)

At this moment I have 1750 games played of the 2.5$ with a 23% ROI.

Which the necessary or appropriate bankroll to play the 3,5r or 8$, 300 BI?

Thanks guys

Downswing sizes mostly depends on field sizes and roi's, 180's can be brutal.
Any sized downswing is possible with some bad luck and 500+ ones aren't really that uncommon at 180's.

I did some calc's for the chances of seeing various sized downswings with various tourny sizes and roi's. You can see graphs of them via the links on this page here:
http://www.deucescracked.com/blogs/b...ability-Graphs

1750 is a very small amont of games to judge your 180 roi by so be a little careful. Your real roi in these games could still be easily anywhere between 5% and 30% though 30% is pretty unlikely these days for any beginner.

With BR management you can push your bankroll more if you are quite willing to drop back down when bad spells hit. You do need plenty for 180's but if you are confident in your game you could use a block of your bankroll to try the $3.5's or $8's and if thing go wrong move back to the $250's before your roll for these shrinks too much. You could keep 200 BI's of $2.5's back and risk the rest on $8's, it depends a lot of your own style, one brm doesn't fit for all players.

It really does depend on your own risk tolerance, try searching/read some BRM posts.

1750 is a very small amont of games to judge your 180 roi by so be a little careful. Your real roi in these games could still be easily anywhere between 5% and 30% though 30% is pretty unlikely these days for any beginner.

With BR management you can push your bankroll more if you are quite willing to drop back down when bad spells hit. You do need plenty for 180's but if you are confident in your game you could use a block of your bankroll to try the $3.5's or $8's and if thing go wrong move back to the $250's before your roll for these shrinks too much. You could keep 200 BI's of $2.5's back and risk the rest on $8's, it depends a lot of your own style, one brm doesn't fit for all players.

It really does depend on your own risk tolerance, try searching/read some BRM posts.[/QUOTE]


Thanks for the reply BaseMetal2.

1750 is not a huge sample
maybe u wanna grind out 5k or 10k before moving up to the next stage ($8)

I would recommend a 2k bankroll for the $8, but more is safer... say like 3k is really very comfortable

hi i recently started playing 2.50 sng i got a br of 650 i was thinking of adding higher buyin sngmtts but exctly not sure what to add ? any suggestion within my br ?

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It depends on several things, the field size, your roi, your risk tolerance, whether you will find it easy to move down in hard times, if you are ok mixing BI's.

$650 or 260BI at $2.50 is just about fine for 180's but adding in many higher would be a bit of a gamble.

I would perhaps try a few $3.5 45's as these give a good deal of FT type action and is good for learning this part.

I wouldn't move up too quickly but carry on at the cheaper for a while as they are a great learning ground. You can learn well in cheaper games as the players typically have more noticable flaws - try to find these flaws and learn how to exploit them as this is the basis of good poker. Really it is up to you though but do think it out and use a bit of BR management.

Hi. Could you help me with my leak findings ?
I haven't been playing poker for about 4 years and started playing again this month. And can't understand whats happening anymore
Am i playing to tight ? To loose on early positions ?
Games - 0.5 45man turbo. (or is it only chaos and no play these games ? ) Thank you very much

What should be like average roi on 180s turbos these days 2-8$ stakes

As big a range as it is, I would say between 10-20% is pretty standard.

Maybe closer to 25% for 3 rebuys.

There is obviously some players outwith these parameter on both side

Where are people getting all this volume from. There are people in this thread talking about 24-30 tabling (admittedly an old post)?? I'm on stars and at the hours I typically play this is not even possible even if I'm playing all micro stakes and ranging from 45s-180s

What time of day has the most traffic and how many table are people playing these days.

Does anyone have an opinion on what the more profitable game is for a solid reg in terms of $ per hour? The $3r 180s or the $8 180s? Even after adjusting for the actual number of rebuys, I suppose 3r have a higher attainable ROI, but you are in each game for longer, since you never bust in the first 30 minutes.

I would say between 6pm and 10pm CET is peak hours.

At that time 24 tabling is very easy

excellent work

How should I adjust my play from 180m turbos to 45m turbos? For some reason I'm doing well in 180m but failing in 45m...

45 is a lot more reg filled, lower ROI is expected
maybe u can just focus on the 180s instead

I could but there is a huge gap between 180m turbo buyin levels, making it very hard to move up. There's 0.5$, then there's 2.5$, than 8$. And I can't play non-turbos because of RL issues.

For a while I have a feeling that I could be winning more. Am I running bad in preflop allins ?



Thanx!

2000 hands, really?

I have only filtered for the actual preflop allins in this case, so its 2000 times going allin.

If you're ahead preflop a lot of the time, you're doing it wrong.

Hi Everyone i'm new to 2+2,


I have a little experience with $2,50's and know that with 100-150 Buy-Ins I will do just fine. But what about the $3,50's? I haven't played too many of those and I cant tell what my avg. rebuy will be and such.

Is there a formula to calcute what my BR should be regarding 180pl $3,50+R's?
I'm thinking $700-800ish. Anyway, I'd love to hear from you guys i need some input

BTW: I'm planning to rebuy on tournament start so $6,69 on every starting $3,50+R, i get that far , thanks

LackBoks

On average you will probably spend around $12 on these tournaments so a $800 BR is far too low IMO.

I personally use at least a 100 buy in bankroll for all my games, meaning $1500 is the minimum for the $3 rebuys. I have heard some recommends 300 buy ins for the 180s meaning around $3000!

I would suggest you stick to the $2.5 until you have like 1000 games if not more before moving up

Sounds fair, there are a lot of regulars in those too, so tougher fields. I'll stick to the $2,50's then.




Thanks for the advice ThePokerBot!

Hey guys

been playing poker for around a year and half and have had my share of up swings and down swings as we all do

but the past 2 months i just cant seem to win. am losing flips constantly

keep getting knocked out by 2 outers and running cards when i have like 80% equity

i know every poker player goes through downswings and that what i keep telling myself but its literally been going on for months now

anyone else ever been on a swing for a few month or do they generally last a few days at the most?