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03-21-2017 , 07:58 AM
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Hi guys, I have a 2+2 account for years but never posted. I've also never played poker regularly for more than a period of a month or so. Lately I started playing some micros and lows.

I use Jennifear's MTT Push/Fold Charts. We are late at today's hot 7.5 with 24 left. I think that, even if the hand is a +EV push in a regular spot (btn vs blinds), I forced it due to the stack sizes of villains. We have 0 FE there plus I never considered of the ICM factor .

Your opinions about that spot would be more than usefull. Thank you in advance.






    Poker Stars, $6.82 Buy-in (5,000/10,000 blinds, 1,250 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37684732

    UTG+2: 314,496 (31.4 bb)
    MP1: 108,233 (10.8 bb)
    MP2: 120,814 (12.1 bb)
    MP3: 22,428 (2.2 bb)
    CO: 193,422 (19.3 bb)
    Hero (BTN): 62,266 (6.2 bb)
    SB: 325,804 (32.6 bb)
    BB: 317,393 (31.7 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with T 7
    5 folds, Hero raises to 61,016 and is all-in, SB calls 56,016, BB folds

    Flop: (142,032) 9 3 T (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    Turn: (142,032) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    River: (142,032) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: 142,032 pot
    Final Board: 9 3 T 8 K
    Hero showed T 7 and lost (-62,266 net)
    SB showed 9 9 and won 142,032 (79,766 net)



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    03-21-2017 , 10:05 AM
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    03-21-2017 , 10:18 AM
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    It's fine. Question is how you got into having such a small stack in the first place.
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    03-21-2017 , 11:49 AM
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    Quote:
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    Ty m8

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    It's fine. Question is how you got into having such a small stack in the first place.
    Ehh I had like 10 bbs just before the blinds passed. also I was card dead for a while and couldnt find any good spot to push ..im glad if its fine tho. I Was pretty sure it was bad.thanks for the reply .
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    03-21-2017 , 11:51 AM
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    Ty m8







    Ehh I had like 10 bbs just before the blinds passed. also I was card dead for a while and couldnt find any good spot to push ..im glad if its fine tho. I Was pretty sure it was bad.thanks for the reply .


    Suited T hi semi-connected with 6bb works for me. ;-)
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    03-21-2017 , 12:15 PM
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    T7s is pretty close to the bottom of a shoving range there. The interesting thing is that you could actually get called by both blinds, which gives you a chance to triple up.

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    03-21-2017 , 12:47 PM
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    Quote:
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    T7s is pretty close to the bottom of a shoving range there. The interesting thing is that you could actually get called by both blinds, which gives you a chance to triple up.

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    My shoving range there looks like this
    for ante =(0.125xbb) :
    50.8%, 22+ Ax+ Q2s+ Q6o+ J5s+ J8o+ T7s+ T8o+ 97s+ 86s+ 76s .

    Was thinking in late spots like this with 0 fe and where icm aplies more, that I could trim it a bit... or not .

    Its true that it plays good against more players and wecan 3up and then ship it tho 💪😀 .
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    03-21-2017 , 12:54 PM
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    Quote:
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    My shoving range there looks like this
    for ante =(0.125xbb) :
    50.8%, 22+ Ax+ Q2s+ Q6o+ J5s+ J8o+ T7s+ T8o+ 97s+ 86s+ 76s .

    Was thinking in late spots like this with 0 fe and where icm aplies more, that I could trim it a bit... or not .
    The thing is when you get so low that you don't have FD equity I prefer to look for good multiway spots with hands that play well multiway. I'd rather shove T7s in this spot than 33 for that reason. Small pairs suck multiway.

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    03-21-2017 , 01:22 PM
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    Quote:
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    The thing is when you get so low that you don't have FD equity I prefer to look for good multiway spots with hands that play well multiway. I'd rather shove T7s in this spot than 33 for that reason. Small pairs suck multiway.

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    I've got it now, thanks dude! Results oriented thinking affected me..
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