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Old 04-21-2017, 08:27 AM   #1
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QQ preflop against large 4 bet

We are in the middle stages of OSS event number 6 on ACR, a $10 bi 15k gtd.

Blinds are 1k/2k. We're relatively deep compared to the other players, sitting with a stack 121k. Most other players at the table have around 20-30 bb, there are only two other players that come close to covering me, villain is one of them.

Villain is a tight player it seems, VPIP 15/PFR 10. His stack comes in just a couple of bb under mine at 116k, so like I said, one of the two other players at the table that I would prefer to avoid at this point.

Action is as follows:
Villain is UTG. He min raises to 4k. It folds around to me on the button with QQ. I 3-bet to 9k. Both blinds fold and it's back on our tight, deepstacked, UTG villain. He re-pops it again to a whopping 37k.

Call, Raise, Fold?
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Old 04-21-2017, 09:17 AM   #2
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Re: QQ preflop against large 4 bet

37k is meaty. any notes on his 4b range?

Being that he's tight, I don't think I want to put 30% of my stack in calling here and 5bet shoving doesnt look too promising.

What do you think his image of you is at this point? Can he think you are 3 betting light?

you have to ask yourself why would a seemingly tight player with a deep stack step out of line out of position against anopther big stack at this point. I'm folding
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Old 04-21-2017, 09:32 AM   #3
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Re: QQ preflop against large 4 bet

TAG raises utg and then puts in a sizeable 4b after you 3b him? Doesn't look good at all.

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Old 04-21-2017, 10:14 AM   #4
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Re: QQ preflop against large 4 bet

This was the first time he had 4bet since I had been at the table. I had seen 3 bet once or twice but nothing that seemed too crazy. To tell you the truth, this was definitely the only time I had seen him do anything that seemed noteworthy.

I folded. I just needed to post the hand here so I didn't feel like such a nit.

At the end of the day my thought process was that if I shove and get called I am almost certainly behind. If I just flat, the best I can hope for in order to feel good about my hand post is to flop a set. And do I really want to set mine for a third of my stack at this point? If the flop comes dry with unders, which is the second best scenario, I am still hating life if he pushes out a large c-bet. And if the flop comes an A or K, I'm folding.

So yeah, it's a good, disciplined fold imo, but it's still one that can keep you up at night.
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Old 04-21-2017, 10:22 AM   #5
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Re: QQ preflop against large 4 bet

From your description of not wanting to tangle with villain, why 3betting pre? It might seem a bit results oriented, but in these spots or bubbles, I'll start flatting JJ/QQ/AK
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Old 04-21-2017, 10:58 AM   #6
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Re: QQ preflop against large 4 bet

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From your description of not wanting to tangle with villain, why 3betting pre? It might seem a bit results oriented, but in these spots or bubbles, I'll start flatting JJ/QQ/AK
Depends a bit on table dynamics but I would hate to flat the minraise and have another villain or two come along for the ride.

OP, big folds can be as important as winning pots.

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Old 04-21-2017, 12:53 PM   #7
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Re: QQ preflop against large 4 bet

Easy fold. You crush nothing in his range except bluffs.
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