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QQ fold?? QQ fold??

04-21-2014 , 07:47 AM
[converted_hand][hand_history]Full Tilt, $200 Buy-in (400/800 blinds, 100 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #26044981

MP3: 91,260 (114.1 bb)
CO: 17,410 (21.8 bb)
BTN: 107,600 (134.5 bb)
SB: 20,590 (25.7 bb)
Hero (BB): 38,450 (48.1 bb)
UTG+2: 31,500 (39.4 bb)
MP1: 41,980 (52.5 bb)
MP2: 37,050 (46.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q Q
2 folds, MP2 raises to 1,600, 4 folds, Hero raises to 3,566, MP2 raises to 7,996, Hero raises to 14,566, MP2 raises to 36,950 and is all-in,

Hy all!!
This was my second hand of this table can I fold in this situation?
No information about villain.
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04-21-2014 , 07:50 AM
If you're going to 5bet fold why not flat the original raise or the 4b? As played hope he has the JJ AK part of his range.
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04-21-2014 , 08:38 AM
From the blinds I would have made a larger original raise. I would prefer a fold or call over a reraise. If he had reraised a 5000 3-bet then we would think we were in trouble without having to put in that 14,566. Down side is that you might only pick up 2 bb's but from your position I would take that.

As played I would call. I'm not putting a 40% of my stack in the middle to then fold.

At what stage of the tourney are you? Are you close to the money? That might influence my decision as well
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04-21-2014 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by rag/rag suited
From the blinds I would have made a larger original raise. I would prefer a fold or call over a reraise. If he had reraised a 5000 3-bet then we would think we were in trouble without having to put in that 14,566. Down side is that you might only pick up 2 bb's but from your position I would take that.

As played I would call. I'm not putting a 40% of my stack in the middle to then fold.

At what stage of the tourney are you? Are you close to the money? That might influence my decision as well
It was a Flip out tour so we was in the money. I dont want to call a reraise oop because if came an A high flop I dont know what to do.
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04-21-2014 , 03:27 PM
Hero needs 29.8% equity to call here, against a range of {JJ+, AK} we have 47% equity. Never folding QQ readless here.
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04-21-2014 , 03:39 PM
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Full Tilt, $200 Buy-in
This should prolly be posted in MSMTT or HSMTT instead.

But bigger pre, it makes it easier to gii ott on gross boards if he flats. With no information on the table, I'm never folding QQ pre 45x deep to a single raise, meaning that I'm either flatting or 3betting with the intention of gii. I think at low stakes where the fields are really soft, you can make a decent argument for flatting in BB (you're closing the action) and playing the hand hu oop to pot control (although it's definitely not my default), but at these stakes with much tougher opponents, you just don't get enough hands to fold QQ hu on 45x without a read that justifies a fold. If he has it, it's just a cooler.
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04-21-2014 , 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DrLifeIsGood
This should prolly be posted in MSMTT or HSMTT instead.

But bigger pre, it makes it easier to gii ott on gross boards if he flats. With no information on the table, I'm never folding QQ pre 45x deep to a single raise, meaning that I'm either flatting or 3betting with the intention of gii. I think at low stakes where the fields are really soft, you can make a decent argument for flatting in BB (you're closing the action) and playing the hand hu oop to pot control (although it's definitely not my default), but at these stakes with much tougher opponents, you just don't get enough hands to fold QQ hu on 45x without a read that justifies a fold. If he has it, it's just a cooler.
It was a 1.10 buy-in tour. The conventer cant handle the flip out tournament
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04-21-2014 , 11:33 PM
Pretty rare for me to ever fold QQs for less than 50bb. Also 3-betting more pre being oop.
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04-22-2014 , 01:34 AM
3b bigger and rip it if villain 4-bets.
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