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Old 05-25-2012, 11:05 PM   #1
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PS2R - overshoving villian overshoves

Note on villian is panics with any good hand, overshoves lots. 47/2 pre. Other is a limping donk too 38/x. Does he ever shove a flush etc. here?

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $2 Buy-in (500/1,000 blinds, 125 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12984092

MP3: 105,193 (105.2 bb)
Hero (CO): 34,021 (34 bb)
BTN: 29,693 (29.7 bb)
SB: 53,864 (53.9 bb)
BB: 22,014 (22 bb)
UTG+1: 40,825 (40.8 bb)
UTG+2: 58,619 (58.6 bb)
MP1: 75,885 (75.9 bb)
MP2: 3,492 (3.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J A
UTG+1 calls 1,000, 3 folds, MP3 calls 1,000, Hero raises to 4,000, 4 folds, MP3 calls 3,000

Flop: (11,625) 2 J 4 (2 players)
MP3 bets 42,000
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Old 05-25-2012, 11:28 PM   #2
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Re: PS2R - overshoving villian overshoves

Even with your read I think he finds the check button with a flopped flush most of the time.

I would expect to see the bare As a lot and some top pair with a spade type hands also, so I'm not folding here.
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Old 05-27-2012, 10:28 AM   #3
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Re: PS2R - overshoving villian overshoves

that'd actually be a tough spot if you were deeper. I think you're calling and feeling good with this stack. He'll have some flushes but not enough.
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Old 05-27-2012, 10:56 AM   #4
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Re: PS2R - overshoving villian overshoves

I don't know but he might jam sets, and or the As
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Old 05-27-2012, 03:09 PM   #5
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Re: PS2R - overshoving villian overshoves

Thx. Don't think this will get lots more interest but I felt the same (minus that he would shove sets). Called. KsQs. Which is why he panics... not the ace.
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Old 05-28-2012, 05:01 PM   #6
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Re: PS2R - overshoving villian overshoves

Why can't we fold this OTF dude?
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Old 05-28-2012, 09:53 PM   #7
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puke fold? find a better spot?
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Old 05-29-2012, 02:14 AM   #8
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Re: PS2R - overshoving villian overshoves

Id be stacking off here with approx 30 bbs behind and if he overshoves a lot.
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Old 05-29-2012, 06:42 AM   #9
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Re: PS2R - overshoving villian overshoves

usually snapping this off
could easily change with reads obv

vs a range of 2p+/sets/pair+FD its prolly a fold, if he has tons of one pairs hands in his range obv a call.
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Old 05-29-2012, 09:53 AM   #10
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Re: PS2R - overshoving villian overshoves

I think its a fold. you are getting a terrible price and even though he is doing this a lot with the bare ace you are not gettin the right price to call as he will likely shove here with 2pair/sets also.
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Old 05-29-2012, 11:41 AM   #11
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never folding...you ssmtt kids are really nitty these days
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