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Old 07-05-2012, 09:15 AM   #16
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Re: PS$11 - Can I keep turning it into a bluff?

Betting river (after checking flop) hero reps KhKx only, which is really narrow.

But still I think betting flop is better bc:
- we could rep wider range of hands on later streets (we abs would bet otf KJhh-KThh, AxKh)
- we`re getting value from his draws esp in $10 where villain could flat 3bets with lots of suited stuff and we get better understanding of villain`s range.

As played, it looks weird, when villain checks 3 streets on that texture in 3bet pot. I think after he called turn he`s not going to fold any hearts.
So it`s some (retarded) AQ, KhQx, ThTx, 9h9x.
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Old 07-05-2012, 10:50 AM   #17
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Old 07-05-2012, 10:56 AM   #18
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Re: PS$11 - Can I keep turning it into a bluff?

I don't love or hate pre...the problem is that it creates some awkward stack sizing throughout the hand.

I think I prefer bet folding the flop small.

As played we checked to gain value on later streets (I hope) and we got a very funky card runout...

Having taken this line I kind of want to shove river with no idea if I'm bluffing or not
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:57 AM   #19
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Re: PS$11 - Can I keep turning it into a bluff?

If Villain is meh, he would call looser than not and then it's not profitable ? I mean better aces are definitely in his range and he would call with it because he is not good IMHO.
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Old 07-05-2012, 01:08 PM   #20
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Re: PS$11 - Can I keep turning it into a bluff?

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you'd be trying to bluff the river. make him fold all his hands that you beat, but also a few that beat you and that are likely in his range given the action.
LDO it's a river bluff. It's a shove or check. I don't think you strongly enough rep a flush. I think it would be hard for villain to fold two pair or set on this board without a shove.
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Old 07-06-2012, 10:25 AM   #21
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Re: PS$11 - Can I keep turning it into a bluff?

Bet the flop. Bet dry turns then you can check river if you want pot control. If villain has you beat they will let you know before then.
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Old 07-07-2012, 09:22 PM   #22
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Re: PS$11 - Can I keep turning it into a bluff?

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its a 3b pot, he mostly has better aces in his continuing range, especially vs your pre sizing.
he cant have much draws either with the Ah on the board.
flop is fine.
Agree. This is why I don't see alot of value betting the flop and can call underpairs 2 streets or maybe or bet turn and get the same value.

Guess betting the flop allows a wider range.
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Old 07-07-2012, 10:19 PM   #23
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Re: PS$11 - Can I keep turning it into a bluff?

We're repping like, exactly zero hands when we take this line, if that matters to you.
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