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02-07-2012, 05:01 AM
#556
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Re: ***The Official "Wierd **** fish do" Thread***
Checking river to bluff-catch the Villain FTW.
I had a number of reads on BTN, I couldn't believe he would overbet for value with any made hand on this board. So after about 50 seconds of thinking about his line I shoved for 1k more chips and he...
Poker Stars, $0.23 Buy-in (150/300 blinds, 25 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
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#11810662
CO: 5,564 (18.5 bb)
BTN: 9,813 (32.7 bb)
SB: 2,892 (9.6 bb)
BB: 6,968 (23.2 bb)
UTG: 10,660 (35.5 bb)
Hero (MP): 10,053 (33.5 bb)
Preflop : Hero is MP with A
6
UTG folds ,
Hero raises to 750 ,
CO folds , BTN calls 750,
2 folds
Flop : (2,100) 8
T
4
(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks
Turn : (2,100) 7
(2 players)
Hero bets 1,050 , BTN calls 1,050
River : (4,200) 5
(2 players)
Hero checks,
BTN bets 6,900 ,
Hero raises to 8,228 and is all-in ,
BTN folds
Spoiler :
Results: 18,000 pot
Final Board: 8
T
4
7
5
BTN mucked and lost (-8,725 net)
Hero mucked A
6
and won 18,000 (9,275 net)
02-07-2012, 08:04 AM
#557
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Re: ***The Official "Wierd **** fish do" Thread***
Ok, I'm not the best when it comes to tournaments, but I can't understand this one. I played in the Pokerstars 100k Depositors Freeroll (most micro players probably play it that play on Pokerstars) and this happened during 600players/25k left. First of all this is not something I normally do and I thought about folding for a while and then decided to shove, but I really can't understand why this bigstacker calls me from out of position, risks his whole stack vs other bigstackers with Q7s. Let me also add that I was playing very nitty and I was in this table for a while with the guy. So am I missing something here? Is there anything that makes his call ok or did I just happen to run into one of the biggest donks? Perhaps one of the guys that believe in favourite hands (lol), "hey it's my favourite hand Q7s ALLIN"?
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SB ($33,426)
BB ($86,348)
UTG ($18,205)
Hero ($40,780)
UTG+2 ($146,890)
MP1 ($177,276)
MP2 ($72,166)
CO ($190,835)
BTN ($70,768)
Dealt to Hero 3
3
fold,
Hero raises to $40,179, fold,
MP1 calls $40,179, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold
FLOP ($94,758) 8
K
K
Hero checks, MP1 checks
TURN ($94,758) 8
K
K
Q
Hero checks, MP1 checks
RIVER ($94,758) 8
K
K
Q
K
Hero checks, MP1 bets $6,000, Hero calls $1 (AI)
MP1 shows Q
7
(Pre 50%, Flop 40.7%, Turn 95.5%)
Hero shows 3
3
(Pre 50%, Flop 59.3%, Turn 4.5%)
MP1 wins $94,760
02-07-2012, 08:11 AM
#558
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Re: ***The Official "Wierd **** fish do" Thread***
You're not missing anything, fish will be fish, don't be results-oriented. And shove all your money pre.
BTW this is not a strategy thread, so for advice post in other forums. This guy is sick, I want him at my table.
02-07-2012, 10:23 AM
#559
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Re: ***The Official "Wierd **** fish do" Thread***
Quote:
Originally Posted by
XMenCypher
You're not missing anything, fish will be fish, don't be results-oriented. And shove all your money pre.
BTW this is not a strategy thread, so for advice post in other forums. This guy is sick, I want him at my table.
Ok
. Thanks for the confirmation.
02-07-2012, 04:57 PM
#560
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Re: ***The Official "Wierd **** fish do" Thread***
I just have to post this, this hand is like the sickest I've ever played :P The Villains are fish, raising and 3 betting really light. Look what happens when I finally have a hand...
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#11813732
MP1: 5,305 (106.1 bb)
MP2: 2,940 (58.8 bb)
MP3: 2,355 (47.1 bb)
Hero (CO): 3,790 (75.8 bb)
BTN: 4,795 (95.9 bb)
SB: 3,290 (65.8 bb)
BB: 6,695 (133.9 bb)
UTG+2: 1,605 (32.1 bb)
Preflop : Hero is CO with Q
Q
UTG+2 folds , MP1 calls 50,
MP2 folds ,
MP3 raises to 150 , Hero calls 150, 2 folds,
BB raises to 450 , MP1 calls 400, MP3 calls 300, Hero calls 300
Flop : (1,825) 8
8
Q
(4 players)
BB checks,
MP1 bets 250 ,
MP3 raises to 900 , Hero calls 900, BB calls 900, MP1 calls 650
Turn : (5,425) 7
(4 players)
BB bets 250 ,
MP1 raises to 3,955 and is all-in , MP3 calls 1,005 and is all-in, Hero calls 2,440 and is all-in, BB calls 3,705
River : (16,780) A
(4 players, 3 are all-in)
Spoiler :
Results: 16,780 pot
Final Board: 8
8
Q
7
A
MP1 showed 9
J
and lost (-5,305 net)
MP3 showed Q
A
and lost (-2,355 net)
Hero showed Q
Q
and lost (-3,790 net)
BB showed 8
8
and won 16,780 (11,475 net)
02-08-2012, 10:28 AM
#561
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Re: ***The Official "Wierd **** fish do" Thread***
Quote:
Originally Posted by
XMenCypher
I just have to post this, this hand is like the sickest I've ever played :P The Villains are fish, raising and 3 betting really light. Look what happens when I finally have a hand...
Ehehe. I just got a flashback when I saw that:
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SB ($2,470)
BB ($2,440)
UTG ($2,510)
Hero ($2,370)
UTG+2 ($1,740)
MP1 ($2,350)
MP2 ($2,590)
CO ($2,760)
BTN ($3,270)
Dealt to Hero K
K
fold,
Hero raises to $180, fold, fold, fold,
CO calls $180, fold, fold, fold
FLOP ($450) K
5
5
Hero checks, CO checks
TURN ($450) K
5
5
4
Hero bets $250, CO calls $250
RIVER ($950) K
5
5
4
4
Hero bets $450, CO raises to $1,200, Hero raises to $1,940 (AI), CO calls $740
Hero shows K
K
(Pre 81%, Flop 4.4%, Turn 2.3%)
CO shows 5
5
(Pre 19%, Flop 95.6%, Turn 97.7%)
CO wins $4,830
02-08-2012, 11:17 AM
#562
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Re: ***The Official "Wierd **** fish do" Thread***
yeah, genuine coolers:P the hunter becomes the prey
02-09-2012, 06:29 AM
#563
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Re: ***The Official "Wierd **** fish do" Thread***
[x] using this as bad beat thread
[x] pot for huge chiplead 5x avg stack with 40 left
No Limit Holdem Tournament
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6 Players
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$2.00+$0.20
Stacks:
UTG kn_li (91k )
UTG+1 Christina940 (
45k )
CO tommyg8 (158k )
BTN KimmiPakk (
71k )
SB KoMaR2010 (
89k )
BB antreaspatra (174k )
Blinds: 1.3k/2.5k Ante 310
Pre-Flop: (
5.6k , 6 players)
tommyg8 is CO K
K
kn_li raises to 7.5k ,
1 fold ,
tommyg8 raises to 18k ,
2 folds , antreaspatra calls 15k,
kn_li goes all-in 91k , tommyg8 calls 73k, antreaspatra calls 73k
Flop: J
8
5
(
276k , 3 players, 1 all-in)
antreaspatra checks,
tommyg8 goes all-in 67k , antreaspatra calls 67k
Turn: 3
(
409k , 3 players, 2 all-in)
River: 5
(
409k , 3 players, 2 all-in)
Final Pot: 409k
tommyg8 shows two pair, Kings and Fives
K
K
antreaspatra shows a full house, Jacks full of Fives
J
J
kn_li shows a pair of Fives
K
A
antreaspatra wins 409k (net +251k)
tommyg8 lost 158k
kn_li lost 91k
02-09-2012, 12:21 PM
#564
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Re: ***The Official "Wierd **** fish do" Thread***
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#11836132
MP: 1,825 (60.8 bb)
CO: 2,345 (78.2 bb)
Hero (BTN): 1,595 (53.2 bb)
SB: 1,485 (49.5 bb)
BB: 1,375 (45.8 bb)
UTG: 375 (12.5 bb)
Preflop : Hero is BTN with 6
K
UTG calls 30, MP calls 30, CO calls 30, Hero calls 30, SB completes, BB checks
Flop : (180) J
7
9
(6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks,
CO bets 90 , Hero calls 90,
SB folds , BB calls 90, UTG calls 90, MP calls 90
Turn : (630) Q
(5 players)
BB bets 60 ,
UTG folds , MP calls 60, CO calls 60,
Hero raises to 360 , BB calls 300,
2 folds
River : (1,470) A
(2 players)
BB bets 60 ,
Hero raises to 1,115 and is all-in , BB calls 835 and is all-in
Spoiler :
Results: 3,260 pot
Final Board: J
7
9
Q
A
Hero showed 6
K
and won 3,260 (1,885 net)
BB showed Q
8
and lost (-1,375 net)
Erm...thanks?
02-09-2012, 03:54 PM
#565
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Re: ***The Official "Wierd **** fish do" Thread***
He had 2nd pair, gutshot and a flush draw dude. Kinda unlucky for him that this was the last community card.
02-10-2012, 09:57 AM
#566
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Re: ***The Official "Wierd **** fish do" Thread***
Had 3bet villain a few times and he's already played back at me. If something tilts me, it's people setmining OOP in 3bet pots. My own fault though, should have 3bet more. Not that weird, but tiltinggg!
Poker Stars, $3 Buy-in (3,000/6,000 blinds, 600 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
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MP2: 142,002 (23.7 bb)
Hero (MP3): 358,080 (59.7 bb)
CO: 176,023 (29.3 bb)
BTN: 371,442 (61.9 bb)
SB: 123,735 (20.6 bb)
BB: 141,100 (23.5 bb)
UTG+1: 272,502 (45.4 bb)
UTG+2: 478,179 (79.7 bb)
MP1: 430,433 (71.7 bb)
Preflop : Hero is MP3 with Q
Q
UTG+1 raises to 13,500 ,
UTG+2 folds , MP1 calls 13,500,
MP2 folds ,
Hero raises to 39,555 , 4 folds, UTG+1 calls 26,055, MP1 calls 26,055
Flop : (133,065) 9
7
5
(3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks,
Hero bets 78,965 , UTG+1 calls 78,965,
MP1 folds
Turn : (290,995) 5
(2 players)
UTG+1 checks,
Hero bets 238,960 and is all-in , UTG+1 calls 153,382 and is all-in
River : (597,759) 3
(2 players, 2 are all-in)
Results: 597,759 pot
Final Board: 9
7
5
5
3
Hero showed Q
Q
and lost (-272,502 net)
UTG+1 showed 5
5
and won 597,759 (325,257 net)
02-17-2012, 05:20 PM
#567
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Re: ***The Official "Wierd **** fish do" Thread***
erm... thanks? guy was 44/2 fish
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#11907342
UTG: 15,771 (39.4 bb)
MP: 18,043 (45.1 bb)
Hero (CO): 8,455 (21.1 bb)
BTN: 4,534 (11.3 bb)
SB: 13,065 (32.7 bb)
BB: 3,132 (7.8 bb)
Preflop : Hero is CO with A
Q
UTG calls 400, MP calls 400,
Hero raises to 1,300 , 4 folds, MP calls 900
Flop : (3,900) 8
7
2
(2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks
Turn : (3,900) K
(2 players)
MP bets 800 , Hero calls 800
River : (5,500) 6
(2 players)
MP bets 2,400 ,
Hero raises to 6,305 and is all-in , MP calls 3,905
Results: 18,110 pot
Final Board: 8
7
2
K
6
MP showed J
T
and lost (-8,455 net)
Hero showed A
Q
and won 18,110 (9,655 net)
02-17-2012, 05:43 PM
#568
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Re: ***The Official "Wierd **** fish do" Thread***
thanks again? :P
Poker Stars, $0.23 Buy-in (10/20 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
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Hero (CO): 1,480 (74 bb)
BTN: 1,430 (71.5 bb)
SB: 1,420 (71 bb)
BB: 1,480 (74 bb)
UTG+2: 1,740 (87 bb)
MP1: 2,205 (110.3 bb)
MP2: 2,305 (115.3 bb)
MP3: 1,440 (72 bb)
Preflop : Hero is CO with T
A
UTG+2 folds , MP1 calls 20,
MP2 folds , MP3 calls 20, Hero calls 20, BTN calls 20, SB completes, BB checks
Flop : (120) J
5
9
(6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero checks, BTN checks
Turn : (120) 3
(6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero checks, BTN checks
River : (120) 4
(6 players)
SB checks, BB checks,
MP1 bets 1,040 ,
MP3 folds ,
Hero raises to 1,460 and is all-in ,
BTN folds , SB calls 1,400 and is all-in,
BB folds , MP1 calls 420
Results: 4,440 pot
Final Board: J
5
9
3
4
Hero showed T
A
and won 4,440 (2,960 net)
BTN mucked and lost (-20 net)
SB showed K
4
and lost (-1,420 net)
BB mucked and lost (-20 net)
MP1 showed Q
K
and lost (-1,480 net)
MP3 mucked and lost (-20 net)
02-19-2012, 03:16 PM
#569
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Re: ***The Official "Wierd **** fish do" Thread***
slow playing KK ftw, I wasn't in the hand
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#11917622
BB: 2,965 (19.8 bb)
MP1: 1,150 (7.7 bb)
MP2: 3,521 (23.5 bb)
MP3: 4,200 (28 bb)
CO: 4,005 (26.7 bb)
BTN: 3,660 (24.4 bb)
Hero (SB): 12,138 (80.9 bb)
Preflop : Hero is SB with 5
T
MP1 folds , MP2 calls 150,
MP3 folds , CO calls 150, BTN calls 150,
Hero folds , BB checks
Flop : (675) 6
6
2
(4 players)
BB bets 150 ,
MP2 folds , CO calls 150,
BTN folds
Turn : (975) 7
(2 players)
BB bets 150 ,
CO raises to 787 , BB calls 637
River : (2,549) 9
(2 players)
BB checks,
CO bets 1,274 , BB calls 1,274
Results: 5,097 pot
Final Board: 6
6
2
7
9
BB showed K
K
and won 5,097 (2,736 net)
CO showed J
Q
and lost (-2,361 net)
02-19-2012, 05:23 PM
#570
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Re: ***The Official "Wierd **** fish do" Thread***
on the bubble aswell..
Poker Stars, $0.45 Buy-in (200/400 blinds, 25 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 5 Players
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#11918342
Hero (BB): 10,139 (25.3 bb)
MP: 11,504 (28.8 bb)
CO: 7,535 (18.8 bb)
BTN: 1,350 (3.4 bb)
SB: 8,932 (22.3 bb)
Preflop : Hero is BB with Q
J
3 folds,
SB raises to 1,200 ,
Hero raises to 10,114 and is all-in , SB calls 7,707 and is all-in
Flop : (17,939) 2
5
6
(2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn : (17,939) 2
(2 players, 2 are all-in)
River : (17,939) 6
(2 players, 2 are all-in)
Spoiler :
Results: 17,939 pot
Final Board: 2
5
6
2
6
Hero showed Q
J
and lost (-8,932 net)
SB showed 6
5
and won 17,939 (9,007 net)
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