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Old 01-03-2012, 06:19 PM   #526
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Re: ***The Official "Wierd **** fish do" Thread***

Just before the break started, missed this one. He probably had KsTs anyway:





    Poker Stars, $13.77 Buy-in (15/30 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
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    BB: 1,980 (66 bb)
    UTG+1: 1,490 (49.7 bb)
    UTG+2: 1,470 (49 bb)
    Hero (MP1): 1,390 (46.3 bb)
    MP2: 1,720 (57.3 bb)
    MP3: 1,165 (38.8 bb)
    CO: 1,040 (34.7 bb)
    BTN: 1,455 (48.5 bb)
    SB: 1,790 (59.7 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A A
    2 folds, Hero raises to 90, 5 folds, BB calls 60

    Flop: (195) J Q 5 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero checks

    Turn: (195) A (2 players)
    BB bets 1,890 and is all-in, Hero folds

    Spoiler:
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    Old 01-03-2012, 07:53 PM   #527
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    Re: ***The Official "Wierd **** fish do" Thread***

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    Yea that is what I was initially doing. The thing is that it was only me he was 3b'ing and as I mentioned before he was 3b'ing ~50% of my opens. It is hard to get dealt a decent hand in 6m, lol. Obv I knew by that he was consistently 3b'ing me light which means I had to play back at some stage especially seeing as he was on my direct left. although I also had not the slightest idea that he would 3b/c so light it was a really weird situation and the bustout was especially tilting. In game I try and focus on picking good spots rather than stack preservation and I suppose that was my downfall here.
    your 4bet shove makes you the bigger fish in the hand by far imo
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    Old 01-03-2012, 08:20 PM   #528
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    Re: ***The Official "Wierd **** fish do" Thread***

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    your 4bet shove makes you the bigger fish in the hand by far imo
    lol no even though the shove was awful. If you wanna bluff make it 15,5bb but I wouldn't do it because of that 3x 3bet.
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    Old 01-03-2012, 08:25 PM   #529
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    Re: ***The Official "Wierd **** fish do" Thread***

    afaik this thread isnt for strat, but 4b shoving is pretty bad because you dont shove any hands for value rather than flatting or 4b/c.

    also i would stop non minraising if he is 3betting so much. the extra 1k you save per open/fold is worth a lot
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    Old 01-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #530
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    No strat!!!

    hi guys
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    Old 01-05-2012, 02:57 PM   #531
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    Re: ***The Official "Wierd **** fish do" Thread***

    now wtf is this? I am so tilted right now.

      Poker Stars, $0.23 Buy-in (10/20 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11548302

      BTN: 1,420 (71 bb)
      SB: 2,010 (100.5 bb)
      BB: 2,590 (129.5 bb)
      Hero (UTG+1): 1,470 (73.5 bb)
      UTG+2: 1,330 (66.5 bb)
      MP1: 1,140 (57 bb)
      MP2: 1,430 (71.5 bb)
      MP3: 1,870 (93.5 bb)
      CO: 1,650 (82.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K K
      Hero raises to 60, 2 folds, MP2 calls 60, MP3 calls 60, 3 folds, BB calls 40

      Flop: (250) 5 J 8 (4 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets 200, MP2 raises to 400, 2 folds, Hero raises to 1,410 and is all-in, MP2 calls 970 and is all-in

      Turn: (2,990) 3 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
      River: (2,990) 9 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

      Results: 2,990 pot
      Final Board: 5 J 8 3 9
      BB mucked and lost (-60 net)
      Hero showed K K and lost (-1,430 net)
      MP2 showed 6 7 and won 2,990 (1,560 net)
      MP3 mucked and lost (-60 net)



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      Old 01-06-2012, 05:52 AM   #532
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      Re: ***The Official "Wierd **** fish do" Thread***

      he "felt the turkey"!
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      Old 01-06-2012, 09:05 AM   #533
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      Re: ***The Official "Wierd **** fish do" Thread***

      Was he displaying his Silverstar/Goldstar status? Because doing so increases his outs from 4 to 22, obviously.
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      Old 01-06-2012, 09:17 AM   #534
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      Was he displaying his Silverstar/Goldstar status? Because doing so increases his outs from 4 to 22, obviously.
      I'll bet five bones that villain was a bronze star russian.
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      Old 01-06-2012, 06:33 PM   #535
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      I don't remember where he was from, but I looked him up and he's down a couple of buy-ins over the last 100 games, almost break even :/ and the more I think about it, then yeah, he was probably Russian
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      now wtf is this? I am so tilted right now.

        Poker Stars, $0.23 Buy-in (10/20 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11548302

        BTN: 1,420 (71 bb)
        SB: 2,010 (100.5 bb)
        BB: 2,590 (129.5 bb)
        Hero (UTG+1): 1,470 (73.5 bb)
        UTG+2: 1,330 (66.5 bb)
        MP1: 1,140 (57 bb)
        MP2: 1,430 (71.5 bb)
        MP3: 1,870 (93.5 bb)
        CO: 1,650 (82.5 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K K
        Hero raises to 60, 2 folds, MP2 calls 60, MP3 calls 60, 3 folds, BB calls 40

        Flop: (250) 5 J 8 (4 players)
        BB checks, Hero bets 200, MP2 raises to 400, 2 folds, Hero raises to 1,410 and is all-in, MP2 calls 970 and is all-in

        Turn: (2,990) 3 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
        River: (2,990) 9 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

        Results: 2,990 pot
        Final Board: 5 J 8 3 9
        BB mucked and lost (-60 net)
        Hero showed K K and lost (-1,430 net)
        MP2 showed 6 7 and won 2,990 (1,560 net)
        MP3 mucked and lost (-60 net)



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        uhhhh the buyin is $0.25 everyone is a fish.... fwiw once they raise the flop (not saying this is correct by any means) they are making the correct call when u shove - they likely got ~33% equity and gotta call 32% of pot if my math is correct :P.
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        uhhhh the buyin is $0.25 everyone is a fish.... fwiw once they raise the flop (not saying this is correct by any means) they are making the correct call when u shove - they likely got ~33% equity and gotta call 32% of pot if my math is correct :P.
        I know their call was correct, but I doubt this guy's level of thinking was number 3. It was rather "oh I have a straight from both sides, lets do it" because who calls with 76o on the first level?
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        Old 01-07-2012, 04:56 PM   #538
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        He did it for the meta game obv.
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        Old 01-07-2012, 04:59 PM   #539
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        I know their call was correct, but I doubt this guy's level of thinking was number 3. It was rather "oh I have a straight from both sides, lets do it" because who calls with 76o on the first level?
        There is no level of thought in those games, it's just clicking buttons.
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        Old 01-07-2012, 05:35 PM   #540
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        I meant first level of blinds and level 3 of his game, just to clarify.
        and obv metagame, phil hellmuth style:P
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