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Old 07-20-2013, 02:06 PM   #26
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Re: *** Official SSMTT quick checkup thread ***

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How will you play it?
Hand one is a fold pre. I really hate 2x hands unless im really short and its folded to me in lp and or it's a bvb dynamic amd i can just open shove.

Hand two ... Options are open shove, check shove , or check fold otf. I really don't wanna waste any precious chips with having <20bb so betting or calling is out of the question IMO ... If im shoving with tpbk I'm really only getting called by better and folding out hands that we beat. so that said I am probably giving up here and gonna pick better spots having an ok push bot stack.
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Old 07-21-2013, 05:40 PM   #27
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Re: *** Official SSMTT quick checkup thread ***

Is there any small stakes mtt study groups or something on skype that are looking for more members for their group? Thanks!
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Old 07-22-2013, 10:49 PM   #28
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Re: *** Official SSMTT quick checkup thread ***

Merge - $4+$.40|<$1K Gtd - [R/1A]> NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

MP: 6,285.00
MP+1: 15,059.00
Hero (LP): 11,290.00
CO: 5,135.00
BTN: 13,290.00
SB: 16,240.00
BB: 6,521.00
UTG: 4,375.00
UTG+1: 7,625.00 68/68/na 8 hands

MP posts ante 25.00, MP+1 posts ante 25.00, Hero posts ante 25.00, CO posts ante 25.00, BTN posts ante 25.00, SB posts ante 25.00, BB posts ante 25.00, UTG posts ante 25.00, UTG+1 posts ante 25.00, SB posts SB 125.00, BB posts BB 250.00

Pre Flop: (600.00) Hero has Q A

fold, UTG+1 raises to 500.00, fold, fold, Hero raises to 1,250.00, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls 750.00

Flop: (3100.00, 2 players) 9 2 K
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets 1,250.00, UTG+1 calls 1,250.00

Turn: (5600.00, 2 players) 5
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

River: (5600.00, 2 players) 9
UTG+1 bets 2,800.00, fold

UTG+1 wins 5,600.00
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Old 07-22-2013, 11:04 PM   #29
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Re: *** Official SSMTT quick checkup thread ***

Merge - $3+$.30|<$33 Coupon - [8 Seats Gtd, R/1A]> NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (UTG): 12,200.00
UTG+1: 17,702.00
MP: 10,535.00
MP+1: 4,410.00
CO: 2,250.00
BTN: 12,830.00
SB: 15,558.00
BB: 4,700.00 11/7/na 73hands

Hero posts ante 25.00, UTG+1 posts ante 25.00, MP posts ante 25.00, MP+1 posts ante 25.00, CO posts ante 25.00, BTN posts ante 25.00, SB posts ante 25.00, BB posts ante 25.00, SB posts SB 125.00, BB posts BB 250.00

Pre Flop: (575.00) Hero has 8 8

Hero raises to 500.00, fold, fold, MP+1 calls 500.00, fold, BTN calls 500.00, SB calls 375.00, BB calls 250.00

Flop: (2700.00, 5 players) 2 K 2
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 1,350.00, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 1,350.00

Turn: (5400.00, 2 players) 3
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (5400.00, 2 players) A
BB bets 2,825.00 and is all-in, fold

BB wins 5,400.00

In reviewing this in the replayer I preferred a psb ott putting him in. But I think that at the time I reviewed his stats and decided it wasn't a good idea. Figuring him to be a tight passive I just put him on a K or higher pp perhaps and decided to give up I think. But it being in the R period still I think it would have been worth just putting him in ott.
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Old 07-23-2013, 03:39 AM   #30
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Re: *** Official SSMTT quick checkup thread ***

1) Not that happy 3b/c so I flat pre, post is ok
2) Give up flop 5way
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Old 07-24-2013, 06:14 AM   #31
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Re: *** Official SSMTT quick checkup thread ***

I prob should have folded pre, other then that was this ok?


[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $5 Buy-in (1,000/2,000 blinds, 250 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #18568161

UTG+1: 26,828 (13.4 bb)
UTG+2: 61,766 (30.9 bb)
MP1: 145,676 (72.8 bb)
MP2: 28,286 (14.1 bb)
MP3: 49,889 (24.9 bb)
CO: 67,182 (33.6 bb)
BTN: 29,811 (14.9 bb)
SB: 37,714 (18.9 bb)
Hero (BB): 52,373 (26.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7 A
2 folds, MP1 raises to 4,000, MP2 folds, MP3 calls 4,000, 3 folds, Hero calls 2,000

Flop: (15,250) 6 2 A (3 players)
Hero bets 6,000, MP1 raises to 12,000, MP3 calls 12,000, Hero raises to 48,123 and is all-in,
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Old 07-24-2013, 02:49 PM   #32
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Re: *** Official SSMTT quick checkup thread ***

^^ I will do the same too.
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Old 07-24-2013, 08:43 PM   #33
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Re: *** Official SSMTT quick checkup thread ***

Don't like the lead at all.
c/x
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Old 07-24-2013, 11:56 PM   #34
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Re: *** Official SSMTT quick checkup thread ***

Yes the natural reaction was to x/c. I guess I could have gotten away on turn if I had played it like that. At least the donk minraise wasn't a set. I still lost though
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Old 07-25-2013, 09:13 AM   #35
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Re: *** Official SSMTT quick checkup thread ***

what do you mean "gotten away"? tp and nfd seems pretty good
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Old 07-25-2013, 10:13 PM   #36
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Re: *** Official SSMTT quick checkup thread ***

    Poker Stars, $1 Buy-in (1,000/2,000 blinds, 200 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #18596771

    CO: 86,280 (43.1 bb)
    Hero (BTN): 37,896 (18.9 bb)
    SB: 34,223 (17.1 bb)
    BB: 19,972 (10 bb)
    UTG+2: 16,060 (8 bb)
    MP1: 30,565 (15.3 bb)
    MP2: 30,300 (15.2 bb)
    MP3: 6,260 (3.1 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with 8 A
    5 folds




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    2x turbo rebuy, bb is tag, sb is all over the place
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    Old 07-25-2013, 11:43 PM   #37
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    Re: *** Official SSMTT quick checkup thread ***

      Poker Stars, $10.50 Buy-in (350/700 blinds, 85 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #18596821

      Hero (BB): 19,410 (27.7 bb)
      UTG+1: 10,342 (14.8 bb)
      UTG+2: 24,223 (34.6 bb)
      MP1: 19,326 (27.6 bb)
      MP2: 9,384 (13.4 bb)
      MP3: 16,034 (22.9 bb)
      CO: 15,517 (22.2 bb)
      BTN: 29,933 (42.8 bb)
      SB: 4,928 (7 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with A 5
      4 folds, MP3 raises to 1,750, 3 folds, Hero raises to 19,325 and is all-in




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      mm $11 turbo superko

      villain was about 28/20/13ish over 90some hands, i was playing tag
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      Old 07-26-2013, 02:37 AM   #38
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      r/c A8s
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      Old 07-26-2013, 02:46 AM   #39
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      Re: *** Official SSMTT quick checkup thread ***

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      Yes the natural reaction was to x/c. I guess I could have gotten away on turn if I had played it like that. At least the donk minraise wasn't a set. I still lost though
      we dont want to get away from it, we want to gii against a range we do it as good as possible against and we want to maximize our profit, lead is pretty bad imo
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      Old 07-26-2013, 11:22 AM   #40
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      I prob should have folded pre, other then that was this ok?


      [converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $5 Buy-in (1,000/2,000 blinds, 250 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #18568161

      UTG+1: 26,828 (13.4 bb)
      UTG+2: 61,766 (30.9 bb)
      MP1: 145,676 (72.8 bb)
      MP2: 28,286 (14.1 bb)
      MP3: 49,889 (24.9 bb)
      CO: 67,182 (33.6 bb)
      BTN: 29,811 (14.9 bb)
      SB: 37,714 (18.9 bb)
      Hero (BB): 52,373 (26.2 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with 7 A
      2 folds, MP1 raises to 4,000, MP2 folds, MP3 calls 4,000, 3 folds, Hero calls 2,000

      Flop: (15,250) 6 2 A (3 players)
      Hero bets 6,000, MP1 raises to 12,000, MP3 calls 12,000, Hero raises to 48,123 and is all-in,
      I am thinking that I might either xr or xc... having the fish in-between complicates things somewhat and I dont know if we have any fold equity at all. I'm sure we are out kicked but we are crushing other draws. Do I want to call call fold unimproved - or payoff otr to better ace - or do I want to check raise on the remote chance that we can fold out some better hands? If the latter am I turning a "made" hand into a bluff? I can see why you'd want to fold this spot pre because this is a tuff spot.

      what is ironic in a way is that flopping tp complicates things because better ax hands are in villians range. So I would LOVE a ragged flop or Q/J - hi flop with your nut draw to check jam it. But In this case I think I might just call and play wawb and hope to improve. This hand is thread worthy imo.
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      Old 07-27-2013, 11:00 AM   #41
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        Poker Stars, $1 Buy-in (1,000/2,000 blinds, 200 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #18596771

        CO: 86,280 (43.1 bb)
        Hero (BTN): 37,896 (18.9 bb)
        SB: 34,223 (17.1 bb)
        BB: 19,972 (10 bb)
        UTG+2: 16,060 (8 bb)
        MP1: 30,565 (15.3 bb)
        MP2: 30,300 (15.2 bb)
        MP3: 6,260 (3.1 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BTN with 8 A
        5 folds




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        2x turbo rebuy, bb is tag, sb is all over the place
        I would open here. Whether or not I would fold or call is dependent on villain.
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        Old 07-27-2013, 11:21 AM   #42
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          Poker Stars, $10.50 Buy-in (350/700 blinds, 85 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #18596821

          Hero (BB): 19,410 (27.7 bb)
          UTG+1: 10,342 (14.8 bb)
          UTG+2: 24,223 (34.6 bb)
          MP1: 19,326 (27.6 bb)
          MP2: 9,384 (13.4 bb)
          MP3: 16,034 (22.9 bb)
          CO: 15,517 (22.2 bb)
          BTN: 29,933 (42.8 bb)
          SB: 4,928 (7 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is BB with A 5
          4 folds, MP3 raises to 1,750, 3 folds, Hero raises to 19,325 and is all-in




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          mm $11 turbo superko

          villain was about 28/20/13ish over 90some hands, i was playing tag
          Thats a large open from a seemingly passive player (for a turbo) from a 20ish bb stack. Meh our over shove seems hopeful. If he calls man we are crushed ! And hes probably calling us after putting in that large raise. so I would probably defend ... or fold here. I think a defend is close here. If you defend and he shuts down seemingly you might be able to put on a small bet ott if he checks back otf. And you might put him to the test if you flop a decent draw. But when fish open big as said in another situation Ina deferent thread it's a polarized range. And more often than not with shorter stacks it leans towards the North Pole. And with that range he's really not gonna give up anywhere in the hand. So we might not even have any FE post.
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          Old 07-27-2013, 11:31 PM   #43
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          Thats a large open from a seemingly passive player (for a turbo) from a 20ish bb stack. Meh our over shove seems hopeful. If he calls man we are crushed ! And hes probably calling us after putting in that large raise. so I would probably defend ... or fold here. I think a defend is close here. If you defend and he shuts down seemingly you might be able to put on a small bet ott if he checks back otf. And you might put him to the test if you flop a decent draw. But when fish open big as said in another situation Ina deferent thread it's a polarized range. And more often than not with shorter stacks it leans towards the North Pole. And with that range he's really not gonna give up anywhere in the hand. So we might not even have any FE post.
          his stats are imo hovering between that of tag and lag and seemed like he knew what he was doing, not sure bc been a couple days but think this guy will steal with 20bb stack and so should we sometimes

          also, do we really shove the nuts here?
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          Old 07-27-2013, 11:44 PM   #44
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          No, you probably click back with aa or kk. And 2.5x is not a large open whoever said this.
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          Old 07-29-2013, 06:10 PM   #45
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          PokerStars - $3+$0.30|800/1600 Ante 200 NL - Holdem - 8 players
          Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

          BB: 44.45 BB
          UTG: 13.47 BB
          UTG+1: 13.25 BB
          MP: 42.15 BB
          MP+1: 18.94 BB
          Hero (CO): 28.69 BB
          BTN: 28.26 BB
          SB: 24.8 BB

          8 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

          Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has 7 Q

          fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, BTN raises to 4.3 BB, fold, fold, hero ?

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          Std call because pot odds? Vs what 3bet % we are folding?
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          Old 07-29-2013, 07:16 PM   #46
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          fold, 4b more than flat if hes going crazy
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          Old 07-30-2013, 01:01 AM   #47
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          PokerStars - $3+$0.30|800/1600 Ante 200 NL - Holdem - 8 players
          Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

          BB: 44.45 BB
          UTG: 13.47 BB
          UTG+1: 13.25 BB
          MP: 42.15 BB
          MP+1: 18.94 BB
          Hero (CO): 28.69 BB
          BTN: 28.26 BB
          SB: 24.8 BB

          8 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

          Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has 7 Q

          fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, BTN raises to 4.3 BB, fold, fold, hero ?

          ---

          Std call because pot odds? Vs what 3bet % we are folding?
          Fold>4b>flat
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          Old 07-30-2013, 03:55 AM   #48
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          I prob should have folded pre, other then that was this ok?


          [converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $5 Buy-in (1,000/2,000 blinds, 250 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #18568161

          UTG+1: 26,828 (13.4 bb)
          UTG+2: 61,766 (30.9 bb)
          MP1: 145,676 (72.8 bb)
          MP2: 28,286 (14.1 bb)
          MP3: 49,889 (24.9 bb)
          CO: 67,182 (33.6 bb)
          BTN: 29,811 (14.9 bb)
          SB: 37,714 (18.9 bb)
          Hero (BB): 52,373 (26.2 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is BB with 7 A
          2 folds, MP1 raises to 4,000, MP2 folds, MP3 calls 4,000, 3 folds, Hero calls 2,000

          Flop: (15,250) 6 2 A (3 players)
          Hero bets 6,000, MP1 raises to 12,000, MP3 calls 12,000, Hero raises to 48,123 and is all-in,
          I know you don't want opinions on pre...But Imo: squeeze/fold>Folding>Flat. (Mind you that's my goal with this type of stack: either get a 35-40bb stack by playing creatively or reducing it to 22-20bbs to make preflop decisions easier. I find this size just horrible to play)

          As played OTF we've got def kicker troubles and MP3 looks like a fish with Q10ss+. Looks like a snap from MP1 with AK and most probably a call from MP3 giving you 2 fewer outs than you're hoping?

          X/R>Leading. We can see how much MP1 likes the flop based on bet sizing. If it's checked round we can make the two pair or the nuts or lead a huge amount of turns.

          This has been an awesome hand to offer insight on and I'm sure everyone is going to approach the hand differently.
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          Old 07-30-2013, 02:02 PM   #49
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          Merge - $1+$.10|<$33 Coupon - [7 Seats Gtd, R/1A]> NL - Holdem - 8 players
          Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

          MP+1: 92,990.00 23/13/4.0 93h ("notes: open ships 50bb K4s J7s, very fishy tendencies ldo")
          Hero (CO): 153,365.00
          BTN: 15,940.00
          SB: 41,750.00
          BB: 46,130.00
          UTG: 54,960.00
          UTG+1: 55,563.00 18/14/~ 51h
          MP: 19,760.00

          MP+1 posts ante 500.00, Hero posts ante 500.00, BTN posts ante 500.00, SB posts ante 500.00, BB posts ante 500.00, UTG posts ante 500.00, UTG+1 posts ante 500.00, MP posts ante 500.00, SB posts SB 2,500.00, BB posts BB 5,000.00

          Pre Flop: (11500.00) Hero has T J

          fold, UTG+1 raises to 55,063.00 and is all-in, fold, MP+1 calls 55,063.00, Hero?

          22/69 - no where near the money bubble but fyi is 13th for a min cash and 8 places get the coupon.
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          fold lol.
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