Hi all. Interested in your thoughts of this hand. Btn is 25/10 from 20 hands. BB is 50/33 from 6. We are in the money with about 100 players left.



Flop is better for callers range than PFR, but I flop nut flush draw and I am happy to play for stacks, but a fold would be a good result, so I like my flop bet. I think btn calls if he hits 8 or 9 or if he has flush draw or open ended straight draw. I dont think he is floating with air as BB still has to act. BB folds

Turn: If villain has a 9 he makes trips. Otherwise its a good card for me because it means he is less likely to have a 9. I fire a second barrel. This should fold out air hands and possibly some draws that might have called flop.
Once he calls I think its likely he has an 8 or made trip 9's

River: I check. I think villain checks back his 8 hands, so his push is either trip 9's or a missed draw, but as I have 2 spades, its not that likely he missed a fd. He could have TJ and be pushing the ten for value, which I am ahead of. I fold party due to risking my tournament life.

Thoughts?

Awkward spot given stack size and his range advantage on that board. I don't think there are too many 9x/8x hands in his range but there are several other hands that are beating you that won't fold to a second bullet. He's not going to fold pairs like 77/TT/JJ and sets obviously. The problem with your hand is you have little showdown value if you don't hit, and a T isn't even that great for you (completes the 76 straight, TT set, and QJ gutter if he continues with that).

With 33bb effective to start the hand you really want to either get your chips in or try to see the river for free to avoid precisely this situation. You don't want to fire 2 bullets and then have to x/f the river, leaving yourself with 15bb. I don't think there is a way to get your chips in early due to stack size, unless you pot the flop and then overshove the turn, but that isn't great. What about checking the turn with the plan to shove if he fires? That way you either see the river for free if he checks behind, or you put him in a very tough spot by shoving over his turn bet. He can only call a x/shove with 9x and 44/88.

Check flop works better in these spots


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What he ^ said

If you want to play for stacks you could go for x/r flop. If villain checks back you get free turn card. Also if you want to cbet, i'd pick a downsized cbet. You are basically polarising your range by cbetting big. As played I think most trips will bet /raise for protection. The only hands I see flatting are boats. Also, if I am going to barrel twice, i'd like it to be smaller on flop and bigger on turn. I find that by betting bigger on turn say 3/4 pot I have a much easier river decision. Don't forget people nowaydays float with almost their whole range on flop. Im now going to check spoiler.

Nice idea. I think my main mistake in this hand is not being aware enough of stack size and how that should influence the correct line. I knew I was happy to play for stacks on the flop/turn, but messed up how to make this happen.

Do you mean, aiming to check raise? I want to fold out hands that are beating me 9x, 8x, 77 etc, which would work well with check raise, with possibility of turn shove on many turn cards

As this flop hits his range so strongly, I am not expecting villain to fold on flop, which is why I planned to double barrel. My mistake was not taking enough notice of stack size. I have a few too many chips to Gii with betting flop and turn and will not be happy with many run outs on river.

What about the river check fold as played? Should I be calling here? Lead out?

Nope x/c

Don't see the point in x/r and pretty sure it's bad


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yeah completely agree with checking flop. checkraising flop is probably better than betting but id x/c as a default.

betting flop or even betting flop and turn should be the worst option, especially when the top card pairs ott.

Thanks for all responses.
I have disagree with the x/c line on the flop. We have to get aggressive at some point in the hand otherwise we lose to many hands that are winning at the moment, but can't call against appropriate aggression. How about checking flop planning to raise al in. It's a big overbet, but we are probably behind, and we fold many hands that are ahead and have up to 15 outs when called. Even against a set we are not doing that badly.

x/c is against traditional poker wisdom and lots of people on this forum would probably agree with your bet OTF. I'd suggest you do your own research and see what you come up with