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07-17-2017 , 08:32 PM

TILT_box1337

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 230

Hi guys,

5 players left, call or fold here?

If I had like 15-25BBs, I think I would call and move in, but with 50BBs behind it was kinda tough lay down, worth it?

What you suggest guys?

Thanks!

MP = 29/12 with 3bet 3.0 on 108 hands;
CO = 51/27 with 3bet 15.8 on 73 hands;

Prima, $1 Buy-in (1,000/2,000 blinds, 200 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: 54,672 (27.3 bb)
BB: 157,331 (78.7 bb)
MP: 124,943 (62.5 bb)
CO: 134,800.50 (67.4 bb)
Hero (BTN): 98,253.50 (49.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with J

MP raises to 6,000, CO raises to 134,600.50 and is all-in, Hero folds, 2 folds, MP calls 118,743 and is all-in

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07-18-2017 , 01:08 AM

killer_kill

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I'm not folding vs someone who's 51/27 over 73 hands and a 15.8 3b.

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07-18-2017 , 01:22 AM

Kev1498

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 290

There will definitely be better spots with 49 BB's, especially with ICM pressure on you with the shorty.

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07-18-2017 , 01:38 AM

Captain-Hindsight

adept

Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 1,114

Any reads on V doing this before? Pretty sure this would be a AA/KK only spot if you ran it in ICMIZER

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07-18-2017 , 02:54 AM

Glaciem

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payouts?

yeah co is crazy but how many times has he just 3b jammed ??

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07-18-2017 , 10:13 AM

TILT_box1337

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 230

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Originally Posted by Glaciem

payouts?

yeah co is crazy but how many times has he just 3b jammed ??

Payouts:
1. 45€
2. 30€
3. 22€
4. 15 €
5. 9€

This is new network for me (Prima), gave it a shot and games/software seems fine to play.

Yeah, this guy w 15% 3bet was fishy, so should have called this one.

Guess I was afraid to bust out in 5th place, but that's my issue. At the moment I read and listen both Jareds books on mental game of poker to correct these issues I see in my game.

So have things to work at and improve.

Thanks guys for answers and suggestions!

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07-18-2017 , 10:51 AM

Glaciem

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This particular hand would be a great example to run through icimizer and mess about with certain ranges.

congrats on the ft.

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07-18-2017 , 12:29 PM

Brogias

centurion

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I think I'm calling in this spot. To me he either has worse pocket pair and is scared of a flop. Or Ax where you might be ahead on some but flipping on others. Its close but I think I make the call.

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07-18-2017 , 01:14 PM

robert_utk

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Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,822

I fold. Ill keep 50BB and move up a spot. Maybe im a nit, but that is my decision here. If I was the original raiser, then I shove. As played, I have nothing invested.

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07-18-2017 , 01:34 PM

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Darth_Maul

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Originally Posted by Glaciem

payouts?

yeah co is crazy but how many times has he just 3b jammed ??

This is important, the guy is shoving 66bb over a 3x open. Is that unusual for him, or his typical 3b?

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07-18-2017 , 03:09 PM

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TILT_box1337

journeyman

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Originally Posted by Darth_Maul

This is important, the guy is shoving 66bb over a 3x open. Is that unusual for him, or his typical 3b?

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I saw him making bad plays before, such as playing Ax by limp calling and calling down with Ax with no kicker, but it was like only few hands before final table. This was like 7th or 8th hand in final table, so I really had no idea about his game in later stages/final table. But considering his (CO's) previous moves maybe I should've called, though the MP raiser was unknown. Guess still this is call.

Overall, finished in 2nd place (AK vs JJ, I hit TP, he made run/run flush)

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07-18-2017 , 03:11 PM

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TILT_box1337

journeyman

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Originally Posted by Glaciem

This particular hand would be a great example to run through icimizer and mess about with certain ranges.

congrats on the ft.

Thanx, finished 2nd, a bit bit unlucky HU, but overall was good, though have some things to improve ofcourse

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07-18-2017 , 05:14 PM

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robert_utk

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Just curious, did either of these players win the tourney? Or did you wind up HU with a different player? Well done with second place!

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07-18-2017 , 06:30 PM

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TILT_box1337

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Originally Posted by robert_utk

Just curious, did either of these players win the tourney? Or did you wind up HU with a different player? Well done with second place!

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They both busted before HU

(They both had AK in this hand)

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07-18-2017 , 09:33 PM

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killer_kill

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You gotta also discount aa/kk here somewhat given his shove sizing.

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