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06-30-2017 , 07:00 PM
Hi dear,

I'm having lots of trouble with playing TT, especially when I'm being pressured, I don't really know where to place my hand preflop as in strenght wise to an 3bet.... How should I play this hand?

Villain stats: vpip 46, pfr 15, 3b 0 but these stats are just from 13hands so not so meaningful, no reads/info except these stats.

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Hero (MP2) (t5,508)
MP3 (t3,353)
CO (t5,057)
Button (t3,474)
SB (t7,931)
BB (t8,469)
UTG (t14,336)
UTG+1 (t4,960)
MP1 (t3,671)

Hero's M: 21.35

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 10, 10
3 folds, Hero raises to t250, MP3 raises to t750, 4 folds, Hero calls t500

Flop: (t1,758) J, A, 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets t700
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06-30-2017 , 07:22 PM
When you're out of position and deepstacked you're basically calling for set value because there are going to be so many flops with overcards and his 3-betting range is weighted towards big cards. That's a terrible flop for TT so x/folding is the right play.

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06-30-2017 , 09:28 PM
I like 3-betting with tens most of the time, especially while in position. The biggest reason I like this is because you will get a decent amount of folds which allows you to win the pot before you see some bad flops, you can also flop sets and overpairs and the extra dead money in the pot will make it easy to get the chips in the middle. In multiway pots I usually just play tens to make a set because it is hard to win multiway pots with such a vulnerable hand.
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07-01-2017 , 12:29 AM
When a 46/15/0 3 bets you and the flop is 2 overcards to your pair I would advise folding everytime.
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07-04-2017 , 08:09 AM
raise/call pre

x/f flop
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07-04-2017 , 11:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Glaciem
raise/call pre
r/fold pre
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07-04-2017 , 08:22 PM
Grunch:

I don't think there is much debate on whether or not this is an open, so let's get to the part that you're likely most curious about.

You're out of position with TT facing a 3-bet. The two big questions that you need to ask yourself:

What is villain's 3-betting range?
What will villain's range be if I 4-bet?

In any spot, you need to consider how your hand plays vs the entire range that villain could have. In this spot, what types of hands 3-bet you? In this spot, maybe it looks like TT+, AK, maybe some AQ, perhaps some other suited aces, KQ occasionally, and if the villain is loose, maybe 88 or 99 (this is not an accurate depiction of villain's range... this is meant to be used as a quick example). Against this range, your hand does fairly well.

How does that change if we 4-bet here? Well, villain probably loses a bunch of Ax hands, TT, 99, and 88. Maybe they dump JJ. So now we might be looking at a range of QQ+ and AK. Against this range, your hand does poorly.

So in this example, it would likely be much better to flat instead of 4-bet, since our hand performs MUCH better against the villain's 3-bet range than the range they defend a 4-bet. So we would call here and play some flops.

There are some other things to consider (such as getting villain to fold their equity from hands that are flipping), but this is a good starting point.


This isn't a particularly good flop for you, so in this case, the flop is likely going to be a check/fold. If the flop had only one over card, no over cards, or two over cards that were paired, a check/call would be a better line.
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07-04-2017 , 09:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by waynimus
Grunch:



I don't think there is much debate on whether or not this is an open, so let's get to the part that you're likely most curious about.



You're out of position with TT facing a 3-bet. The two big questions that you need to ask yourself:



What is villain's 3-betting range?

What will villain's range be if I 4-bet?



In any spot, you need to consider how your hand plays vs the entire range that villain could have. In this spot, what types of hands 3-bet you? In this spot, maybe it looks like TT+, AK, maybe some AQ, perhaps some other suited aces, KQ occasionally, and if the villain is loose, maybe 88 or 99 (this is not an accurate depiction of villain's range... this is meant to be used as a quick example). Against this range, your hand does fairly well.



How does that change if we 4-bet here? Well, villain probably loses a bunch of Ax hands, TT, 99, and 88. Maybe they dump JJ. So now we might be looking at a range of QQ+ and AK. Against this range, your hand does poorly.



So in this example, it would likely be much better to flat instead of 4-bet, since our hand performs MUCH better against the villain's 3-bet range than the range they defend a 4-bet. So we would call here and play some flops.



There are some other things to consider (such as getting villain to fold their equity from hands that are flipping), but this is a good starting point.





This isn't a particularly good flop for you, so in this case, the flop is likely going to be a check/fold. If the flop had only one over card, no over cards, or two over cards that were paired, a check/call would be a better line.


I concur with everything waynimus said. Range vs range and out of position, it is a x/f on this flop. So a 4bet (if called) would be even worse on this flop, unless they have specifically KK or QQ, but you would have to donk bet to find out, so too expensive that route. Maybe next time you flop a set against AK, and get all the chips in.


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07-05-2017 , 03:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShipThisPLZ
r/fold pre
r/c 3b but fold to jam
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07-05-2017 , 08:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by waynimus
Grunch:

I don't think there is much debate on whether or not this is an open, so let's get to the part that you're likely most curious about.

You're out of position with TT facing a 3-bet. The two big questions that you need to ask yourself:

What is villain's 3-betting range?
What will villain's range be if I 4-bet?

In any spot, you need to consider how your hand plays vs the entire range that villain could have. In this spot, what types of hands 3-bet you? In this spot, maybe it looks like TT+, AK, maybe some AQ, perhaps some other suited aces, KQ occasionally, and if the villain is loose, maybe 88 or 99 (this is not an accurate depiction of villain's range... this is meant to be used as a quick example). Against this range, your hand does fairly well.

How does that change if we 4-bet here? Well, villain probably loses a bunch of Ax hands, TT, 99, and 88. Maybe they dump JJ. So now we might be looking at a range of QQ+ and AK. Against this range, your hand does poorly.

So in this example, it would likely be much better to flat instead of 4-bet, since our hand performs MUCH better against the villain's 3-bet range than the range they defend a 4-bet. So we would call here and play some flops.

There are some other things to consider (such as getting villain to fold their equity from hands that are flipping), but this is a good starting point.


This isn't a particularly good flop for you, so in this case, the flop is likely going to be a check/fold. If the flop had only one over card, no over cards, or two over cards that were paired, a check/call would be a better line.
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