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How many mistakes did I make on this hand? Am I being results oriented? How many mistakes did I make on this hand? Am I being results oriented?

06-15-2017 , 11:51 PM
Blinds are 400/800 we have a stack of about 28k
Utg+1 has been very active and raises 3x with about 10,000 more behind
There are 3 callers swelling the pot to just under 10k
We are in the BB, closing the action we decide to call for 1600 more getting great pot odds with 5 6

Flop comes 3 5 6 , we check
The original raiser goes all in for 10,000, someone from utg+2 with 30k behind calls. We have seen him do this on similar board textures with weak holdings like AQ and AK high.
I call. My mentality behind the smooth call was that we were either crushed by a set, or doing extraordinarily well against an ace high or over-pair. I can't really see and 4's or 7-8 in the opponents range, however I can easily have those holdings in my range.

The turn comes K creating a backdoor draw.
Here is where I believe we made the fatal mistake of the hand. with about 16k stack remaining, I bet out 4k trying to induce a shove, and creating a side pot that I could shove all-in into the river if he call.
I knew if the opponent have a set we were getting it all in anyways. Also If the opponent floated with AK or an over-pair. I realized his equity was about 18% to draw out on the river. I considered a larger bet sizing to deny his river equity, but I ultimately decided on the 4k bet.
Our opponent called.

The river comes 9
We shove all in, and the opponent calls with 9 9


The biggest question I have is about the turn bet size. Since we are betting into a dry side pot, should I still be looking at the total size of the pot and pricing my bets accordingly? I know that betting 4k into a 40k pot is giving my opponent way too good odds to call and see a river.
But should I be adding something else into my calculation since this is a dry side pot?

At the turn, I was confident that we were either way far ahead, or way far behind. And I did not mind seeing a river card with our shallow stack remaining. If I had a deeper stack I'm quite certain that I would have priced the turn higher.


I can't help but feel like there is a serious flaw in my thought process with this hand.
Am I being results oriented, did I make a correct play?
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06-16-2017 , 03:10 AM
shove either flop or turn for sure. you have less than half a pot size bet left after calling the flop. You're top of your range we want to get value from over pairs, Kx and flush draws so betting 4k is pointless when all these hands are going to call a shove.
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06-16-2017 , 01:13 PM
happily shoving flop, there's no need to induce here and I think that's where your logic may be a little flawed. We want to pick up this pot OTF or at least OTT as our hand can lose to some bad run outs and we don't want villain to realize their equity.
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06-19-2017 , 12:47 AM
seems fine to jam flop
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06-20-2017 , 10:25 PM
I would check OTP with intentions of check/jamming. Especially here where the big stack is pretty much pot committed OTP.
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06-21-2017 , 05:15 AM
Totally standard to get it in on the flop.
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