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Old 06-26-2010, 03:21 AM   #1
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How am i supposed to know if im a winning mtt player?

What kind of samplesizes do i need to be sure if im a winner in mtts?

I have profits in mtts but my graphs just look like huge downswings, except for a couple big wins that puts me in the green...



Im guessing this is a really small sample for mtts and means nothing?



Im not a winning player either, in the beginning of this year i decided to quit my job and give poker a shot, the plan was to grind cashgames and play sunday majors with the FPP but i failed to beat the cashgames





I really dont know what my next move should be, do i wanna continue poker or just get a job, i havent made any money in the last couple of months playing poker.

Last sunday warmup i was like 3rd in chips with like 40 players left, eventually busted 28th after losing a ton of setup flips in the end.

Ofcourse if i won the flips and got 130k$ for first i wouldnt be making this topic now would i? Id be this "great" tournament player and probably have people asking me to coach them.


How will i know if im just a losing poker player who just happened to run good in a couple of donkaments to get a profit, or if my style somehow works in the donkaments but not in cashgames? what kind of samplesizes do i need to be certain? I really did give cashgames a serious shot, i really gave it my all, i just cant beat them...




Serious advice would be nice...
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Old 06-26-2010, 03:23 AM   #2
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Re: How am i supposed to know if im a winning mtt player?

wow tl;dr youre def not a winning player tho
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Old 06-26-2010, 03:31 AM   #3
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Re: How am i supposed to know if im a winning mtt player?

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wow tl;dr youre def not a winning player tho
Thanks for this, really helpfull for me, im so ****ing depressed i cant win flips when it matters in mtts and and keep bubbling everytime when i get even close to a final table or even in the money

And i cant beat cashgames if my life depended on it, but hey thanks for trying to cheer me up


tl:dr? theres like 10 sentences buddy
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Old 06-26-2010, 04:08 AM   #4
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Re: How am i supposed to know if im a winning mtt player?

confirmed losing player?


lock thread plz! we're done here!
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Old 06-26-2010, 05:31 AM   #5
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Re: How am i supposed to know if im a winning mtt player?

play more.
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Old 06-26-2010, 05:52 AM   #6
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Re: How am i supposed to know if im a winning mtt player?

That sharkscope looks like profit to me.
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Old 06-26-2010, 03:59 PM   #7
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Re: How am i supposed to know if im a winning mtt player?

yea im confused too, looks like profit
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Old 06-26-2010, 04:14 PM   #8
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Re: How am i supposed to know if im a winning mtt player?

Above all else, if withdrawals >>> deposits we're all good imo.
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Old 06-26-2010, 04:22 PM   #9
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Re: How am i supposed to know if im a winning mtt player?

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yea im confused too, looks like profit
i just remember terrible threads in mttc about 2-3 weeks ago by op
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Old 06-26-2010, 04:23 PM   #10
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his BBV threads are worse
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Old 06-26-2010, 05:00 PM   #11
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Re: How am i supposed to know if im a winning mtt player?

Estimating your "true" winrate from a sample is a tricky subject. People use statistical tools to work this out. Looking at your graph, it's pretty clear you don't have a large enough sample to say very well which side of 0 EV you probably would be in the long run.

Do you have a big stomach for math? I could point you at some threads and books, but it will mean thinking about standard deviation, confidence intervals, and algebra.

Looking at your cash graph, the big story is your showdown winnings versus non-showdown winnings. I don't know what stakes you play, but it is highly unusual to be losing all your money at showdown at micro and low stakes. Stop trying to buy so many pots, and make your money by extracting value from your strong hands.

You sir, are a lagtard.
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Re: How am i supposed to know if im a winning mtt player?

If you have a monitor installed on the ceiling above your bed, it is a sure sign.
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Old 06-26-2010, 05:49 PM   #13
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games played: 4279
av ROI: 21%
total profit: $16016

are you bragging, leveling or you are just a *****?

GO to HEM > Tourney > Hourly $ rate and ask yourself if you could be winning more as a paper boy and you'll have all the answers you need
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Old 06-26-2010, 05:52 PM   #14
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you are just a *****?
its this one

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