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Holding AJ from CO, reraised by button...Shove or fold? Holding AJ from CO, reraised by button...Shove or fold?

02-01-2015 , 04:34 PM
Hey,

I guess it's standard to shove here? I only have 27 hands recorded on this opponent so not really helpful...





    Poker Stars, $3 Buy-in (2,500/5,000 blinds, 625 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #34594101

    SB: 56,921 (11.4 bb)
    BB: 214,710 (42.9 bb)
    UTG: 249,506 (49.9 bb)
    MP: 95,706 (19.1 bb)
    Hero (CO): 119,735 (23.9 bb)
    BTN: 119,404 (23.9 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with J A
    2 folds, Hero raises to 11,200, BTN raises to 29,775, 2 folds, Hero raises to 119,110 and is all-in, BTN calls 89,004 and is all-in

    Flop: (248,808) 7 7 3 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    Turn: (248,808) 9 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    River: (248,808) 6 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: 248,808 pot
    Final Board: 7 7 3 9 6
    Hero showed J A and won 248,808 (129,404 net)
    BTN showed A A and lost (-119,404 net)



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    Holding AJ from CO, reraised by button...Shove or fold? Quote
    02-01-2015 , 04:47 PM
    These kinds of spots are super V dependent and because hes at reshove stacksize if hes light I think hes shoving to maximise his fold equity so when he 3bs this stack it looks really bladed to me.. proly somthing like TT+,AQ+

    Readless I would fold.. I think we need to have some sort of laggy/light 3b read on the guy before we can justify 4b shove.

    On a side note dont include results as they can influence the post quality in your threads, I havn't seen them myself but others might
    Holding AJ from CO, reraised by button...Shove or fold? Quote
    02-01-2015 , 08:35 PM
    AJs would be the top of my folding range here, for reasons wow mentioned.

    It's probably pretty close either way.
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    02-01-2015 , 09:31 PM
    Depends a lot. Not only the OR, but also how are the blinds are playing and you obv. 27 hands is not a lot, but in 6-max its something. I don't think I can force myself to fold here in vacuum. Villains sizing is a bit scary, though.
    Holding AJ from CO, reraised by button...Shove or fold? Quote
    02-01-2015 , 10:10 PM
    Usually when reshove stack 3b non all in he got the goodie goodies so mainly cause of his sizing im folding this.
    Holding AJ from CO, reraised by button...Shove or fold? Quote
    02-01-2015 , 10:25 PM
    Absolutely readless, online, in a $3 bi, I get it in here even though the sizing makes it look like value. It's just too likely that he just doesn't have much concept of sizing, or thinks A9s/AT/77-99 are the nuts in this spot, or some other random thing, that AJs is too strong to fold with 24bb.

    Also, what stage of the tournament is this? Are there ICM considerations. If this is the final table, or on the bubble, than I'd find a fold with the 11bb stack in there, and the fact that villain with our same stack is probably playing tighter

    Also, if it was live and villain was above 50 years old, I fold
    Holding AJ from CO, reraised by button...Shove or fold? Quote
    02-02-2015 , 07:29 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rabin
    Usually when reshove stack 3b non all in he got the goodie goodies so mainly cause of his sizing im folding this.
    Yeh good point. Thanks. I missed this completely during the hand.
    Holding AJ from CO, reraised by button...Shove or fold? Quote
    02-03-2015 , 06:26 AM
    Yeah what wow said.

    In higher stakes buyin tournies reg's will make these types of 3-bet's light because of how strong it looks, but it doesn't happen much in small stakes tournies.
    Holding AJ from CO, reraised by button...Shove or fold? Quote
    02-04-2015 , 04:51 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dragons_Egg
    Yeah what wow said.

    In higher stakes buyin tournies reg's will make these types of 3-bet's light because of how strong it looks, but it doesn't happen much in small stakes tournies.
    Thank you sir.
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