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05-12-2017 , 07:28 PM

Snake-glory

adept

Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 959

Hi everybody. Played this hand vs loose-passive player. Flop he fast c-bet all in 60 bb in position at the early stage of the tournament. Should I call or fold?

Poker Stars, $2 Buy-in (75/150 blinds, 20 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37724848

BTN: 10,294 (68.6 bb)
SB: 5,693 (38 bb)
BB: 10,154 (67.7 bb)
UTG+1: 22,400 (149.3 bb)
Hero (UTG+2): 14,307 (95.4 bb)
MP1: 11,703 (78 bb)
MP2: 14,622 (97.5 bb)
MP3: 9,980 (66.5 bb)
CO: 17,269 (115.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with T

UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to 450, 2 folds, MP3 raises to 750, 4 folds, Hero calls 300

Flop: (1,905) 9

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets 9,210 and is all-in, Hero calls 9,210

Turn: (20,325) 4

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (20,325) Q

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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05-12-2017 , 08:22 PM

bellyfrog

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 136

Gross spot. If you think he's really passive then it seems unlikely he's shoving worse than TT here for 5x pot.

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05-13-2017 , 04:35 AM

oldgoat

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 1,972

This early I'm gambling here - it's sometimes 2p but even then we have some equity and we're often ahead

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05-13-2017 , 05:46 AM

flamekiddo25

centurion

Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 162

yuk. i prefer to fold it, let's crush them with our decent stack on other less variance spots

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05-13-2017 , 06:42 PM

Snake-glory

adept

Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 959

I decided to call only because it's too stupid to push 60bb with an over pair or set or whatever else. But yes, sometimes these loose-passive players all ins with a really good hand.

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05-13-2017 , 07:15 PM

bellyfrog

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 136

I mean, how strong was your read that this guy was passive? Because when he 3b this hand and then totally donks out on the flop he doesn't really seem like a passive player to me. The complete opposite in fact.

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05-13-2017 , 07:25 PM

Snake-glory

adept

Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 959

He was like 30/0 preflop with 40 hands. No stats for his c-bet.

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05-14-2017 , 07:09 AM

Darth_Maul

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 4,434

When a player suddenly plays the opposite of their image, watch out. Your read is he's loose-passive but then he 3-bets in MP against an EP raise, then shoves a low flop. Do you really think he'd play 88 this way? Or many overcard combos?

Hos range is going to be JJ-AA/AK very often here, against which you're a 2:1 underdog. You would have to include AQ and AJ in his range to make this a call, and even then it is a flip for 2/3 of your stack.

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05-14-2017 , 08:37 AM

Snake-glory

adept

Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 959

I agree, it's too risky to go all in with 60 bb, especially against a loose-passive player. On the other side, they are doing the same move with ace high or even worse.

Anyway, it's a fold unless I have a notes on him. Thanks all for help!

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