Blinds: 400/800 - 9 handed
UTG: 11526
UTG+1: 52076
Me: 21400
other 6 will end up folding so leaving their stacks out for sake of space
UTG shoves 11526 preflop
UTG+1 calls 11526
I have T
T
This is Shove or Fold scenario correct? In 0 scenarios we are CALLING? My roommate is arguing with me that he would CALL the 11526 and then fold the last 9.9k chips on the flop "if I find a reason to fold" meaning an A/K/Q is on the flop.
Can someone explain the logic here, I want to know the correct play here and why. I think there's only two options, shove or fold - there's about no scenario in which I'm CALLING the flop and folding on a bad board. I feel like the guy with the most chips is normally calling with worse than me here, and I see some scenarios behind UTG. I'd love to see AK v AQ v my TT. Won't be how it turned out, but without knowing their hands, can someone explain the plays here.
ON the flop, I'd be 21% to call given it'd be 9.9k to win 46k pot (considering UTG+1 is going to just put the last 10k in). So I find that in about no scenario am I even folding the flop, therefor making it shove/fold.
I think I'm right that you're not committing 55% of your stack preflop and then folding the last 45% on the flop. I just can't see how that's possible. I'm losing braincells
Thanks
Edit: Just did some math, so I put the first guy on AK. IDK what I'm putting the second guy on, I thnk he calls with a PP or any AK/AQ/Ace suited
So if we just count the first guy as AK - we see an Ace or a King at least 1 of the 3 flop cards 36.7% of the time. Meaning according to my roommate, he's folding 1/3 of the time. CAn someone tell him why that's bad, or tell me that I'm insane for thinking that it's terrible to call here and not shove/fold.
Last edited by Speakmore; 03-24-2017 at 12:37 AM.