only get few hands on villain he is a goldstar runnin 46/35 over 11 hands


[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $150 Buy-in (75/150 blinds, 20 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12995781

CO: 1,985 (13.2 bb)
BTN: 14,040 (93.6 bb)
SB: 3,767 (25.1 bb)
BB: 5,711 (38.1 bb)
Hero (UTG+1): 2,670 (17.8 bb)
UTG+2: 7,509 (50.1 bb)
MP1: 1,974 (13.2 bb)
MP2: 3,052 (20.3 bb)
MP3: 2,695 (18 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q A
Hero raises to 300, 5 folds, BTN calls 300, 2 folds

Flop: (1,005) 7 9 6 (2 players) Hero???

check now, but don't make it 300 pre...open shove is fine or like 400 you aren't ever r/f here.

slightly gross and such a common spot

555/call pre. shove any flop. (but only my 2 cents, and just making a post so i remember to come back and see what gregz says)

555?? Why would you ever make it this much? Either shove or go closer to 400.

lol. just trying to get the discussion going. i think this is a brutally difficult spot given effective stax. 555 sux...explain.

300 its perfectly fine, now check fold

It narrows our range and allows the rest of the table to play much better against us.

u are resultsoriented because the preflopopen put you in a gross spot
but preflop is obviously fine and flop is the easiest check/fold ever

what lissi said

Stink is right. Most of midstakes is ******ed. Idk how you people can even cross the street without getting hit by cars.

Not just this thread specifically but all of them.

yeah just c/f he has all the chips and it seems unlikely that betting 344 is even going to show a profit when if he does peel and we don't hit on the turn we are just c/f so much.

anyone like cbeting if he has similar stack size?

but u blame me for trolling them lol
btw u are also ******ed and pretty bad at poker

who in glashouse sits should not with stones throw

I don't blame you for trolling I just like to harass you. You keep saying that and you have this image built up that you're always right and everyone else is wrong. That image allows you to just post "lol" and be ambiguous as **** without ever actually giving an answer to either side. Its easy to be "right" everytime when.you can pretend you meant the correct answer for every post.

Calm down ladies, stop bitch slapping at each other.

Not open shoving this hand at 18BB w/ antes in play is just bad. Post flop spots like this shouldn't exist for you if u know how to play PF.

Wrong. Stfu

I've only been back on the forums for a handful of days now, and have already noticed you to be the most rude know-nothing troll of the bunch. I'd be happy to engage in a debate with you if you weren't such a douchebag seemingly.

strongly disagree.. with the structure of the bigs in stars we are a lot of times with 14-18bbs and shoving AQ here is a kinda big mistake imo.... we are "loosing" a lot of shoves by worst hands.. and with that stack we maybe dont have a lot of spots to double up.. i mean we need to double up when our stack is still "good"..

I need more proof that this is a "big mistake". Some math would help your argument. AQ is too good to fold. You're more comfortable r/c why? Don't you know it's a horrible habit to R/F below 20BB? Who do we have a read on at the table who we're enticing into 3betting us? Why do you want to play a pot post flop agaisnt bad players who'll call w/ small-mid pairs, etc, when our stack is literally unplayable post flop (especially OOP) unless we hit our hand? We'll be giving up the post most times post flop. THis si all bad.

A huge % of the time everyoen will fold and ull get whats in the middle, which is a big addition to our small stack at this juncture. Sometimes well get called by middling pairs and race, sometimes a hero will call us w/ AJs,KQ, etc. sometimes well get called by AK,QQ+, but if you add up the +cEV of the situation (fold equity + hand equity against percieved calls) you can't argue w/ open shoving, especially if we add in the post flop realities of standard opening these stacks.

Why are you trying to fold out everything that we dominate Foks?

Id be happy to engage in a debate if there was something to debate. What you said just isn't true.

You read my post flop analysis right? If you can run the #s and show me its -cEV PF I might be swayed. Your focus is way too narrow on "I'm folding out hands I dominate". There are many other factors to consider, some of which I've already included in my prior post.

Of course open shoving is +cEV, it's just that at most tables r/c will be more +cEV

hi, ofc i like 300/c never r/f .. 1st i think that a % oftimes we will recieve shoves from worst hands than ours(and pretty much more than the ones that will call our openshove) 2nd i think that we dont have to give up such a big quantity of flops,1/3 of times we will hit a pair.. and the other times it depends of the flop texture.. ofc we are checking 7 8 10, but not 9 2 2 )to give an explample). in conclusion, i think that by openshoving we are wasting a good chance of getting shoved by worst hands that will usually fold if we openshove but prolly shove if we min raise. and remember we are shot and we have to take the possibilities we have

OK. What's your motivation for posting btw? You're unpleasant, and you don't seem to contribute anything of substance. At a glance you seem to be bad for these forums.