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12-15-2014 , 09:05 PM
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Hey,

Just wondering if i overplayed QQ here? V's click back four bet looks super strong.

V's VPIP is 28% and PFR is 13% over 39 hands.







    Poker Stars, $10 Buy-in (30/60 blinds, 5 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #33411171

    UTG+1: 2,579 (43 bb)
    UTG+2: 5,784 (96.4 bb)
    MP1: 3,000 (50 bb)
    MP2: 2,322 (38.7 bb)
    MP3: 6,338 (105.6 bb)
    CO: 2,326 (38.8 bb)
    BTN: 10,949 (182.5 bb)
    SB: 3,155 (52.6 bb)
    Hero (BB): 2,635 (43.9 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with Q Q
    3 folds, MP2 raises to 120, 4 folds, Hero raises to 370, MP2 raises to 620, Hero raises to 2,630 and is all-in, MP2 calls 1,697 and is all-in

    Flop: (4,709) J T K (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    Turn: (4,709) J (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    River: (4,709) 3 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: 4,709 pot
    Final Board: J T K J 3
    MP2 showed A A and won 4,709 (2,387 net)
    Hero showed Q Q and lost (-2,322 net)



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    12-16-2014 , 04:57 AM
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    Playing for an effective stack of 38bbs I'd go in, it is a cooler.
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    12-16-2014 , 06:31 AM
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by oscarrdc
    Playing for an effective stack of 38bbs I'd go in, it is a cooler.
    Yeh i guess...i just wonder if it's possible to fold here based on the click back. Doesn't that always suggest a really strong holding? And aren't the players that click back decent poker players most of the time? If that's the case they're not clicking back JJ or worse and the same with AK...Which leaves the last two dominating pairs.

    Meh lol probably trying to think too hard.
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    12-16-2014 , 07:52 AM
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    ummm...so level 3,4,5
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    12-17-2014 , 07:28 AM
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    Quote:
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    ummm...so level 3,4,5
    lol...gotta get it in i guess and just turn off my brain ha ha
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    12-17-2014 , 11:42 AM
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    You can also just flat pre if you feel like his opening range is tight. 3bing is obviously good against ppl who call 3bs w/K10 and junk, but it's meh against ppl whose opening range is tight
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    12-17-2014 , 11:57 AM
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    If we were deeper I would say call 4bet in pos still would be ok here tho .. However on these stack sizes once 4bet am prolly just going with it hoping he as AK or jj
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    12-18-2014 , 12:53 PM
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    in my experience it's impossible to overplay QQ preflop in low buy in tournaments and in general it's close to impossible to overplay QQ preflop for 40bbs
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    12-19-2014 , 04:36 AM
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by CrunkMonkey
    in my experience it's impossible to overplay QQ preflop in low buy in tournaments and in general it's close to impossible to overplay QQ preflop for 40bbs
    Ok thanks
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    12-19-2014 , 06:07 AM
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    In micros QQ is a go-go all in in this situation, despite de fact that a 4 bet will make me think if I want to take a possible flip against AK so early in the tournament.
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