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07-23-2017 , 08:06 AM

BicycleRepairMan

journeyman

Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 359

No reads on V,I hate these donk bets when I don't have any piece of the flop,its usually a flush draw or TPWK so is it better to just fold flop here,that seems weak and exploitable

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $6.82 Buy-in (800/1,600 blinds, 240 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37797522

BB: 145,145 (90.7 bb)
UTG+1: 68,124 (42.6 bb)
UTG+2: 117,779 (73.6 bb)
MP1: 110,875 (69.3 bb)
MP2: 48,850 (30.5 bb)
MP3: 33,087 (20.7 bb)
CO: 21,094 (13.2 bb)
Hero (BTN): 57,266 (35.8 bb)
SB: 20,219 (12.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 4

6 folds, Hero raises to 4,000, SB folds, BB calls 2,400

Flop: (10,960) 8

(2 players)
BB bets 4,800, Hero calls 4,800

Turn: (20,560) T

(2 players)
BB bets 4,800, Hero folds

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07-23-2017 , 08:50 AM

Darth_Maul

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 4,435

With a deeper stack you can raise but you're a bit handcuffed with 36bb. You'd have to risk another 25% of your stack to try and push him off and you have a hand with little chance to improve if it doesn't work. So folding in this spot isn't bad. In tournaments sometimes you have to protect your stack.

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07-23-2017 , 09:38 AM

BicycleRepairMan

journeyman

Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 359

Ok lets say I have more chips,will raising fold out these donk bet guys?what will it accomplish?

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07-23-2017 , 01:30 PM

Darth_Maul

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 4,435

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Originally Posted by BicycleRepairMan

Ok lets say I have more chips,will raising fold out these donk bet guys?what will it accomplish?

Sometimes. Since you don't have a hand the point is to push him off a better hand (like a marginal pair) or even a draw that has good equity against your hand.

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07-23-2017 , 03:06 PM

killer_kill

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 28,610

You wanna raise here sometimes cause you have a gutter to the essential nutter butters and an overcard is likely live in the A.

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07-23-2017 , 04:28 PM

Captain-Hindsight

adept

Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 1,114

I'm folding flop, I'd like to have a BD flush + gutter to raise

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07-24-2017 , 12:59 PM

WHO_RUNIT

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 422

I get extremely frustrated at donk bets. I think there's a few ways you could play it. Folding to flop bet is okay, I think you could also call one, fold the turn BUT, with the turn bet being the same as the flop (indicating weakness) and the pot being even bigger now, you can now call the turn bet in hopes of taking the pot away on the river. A lot of times these donk bettors will min donk bet, min donk bet, and then shut down on the river allowing you to take the pot away with a decent size bet. This is sometimes risky but if you have a pretty good feel for the player it can win you some good size pots with no hand at all.

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