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08-17-2017 , 11:34 AM
PokerStars - 1250/2500 Ante 380 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

MP+1: 22.34 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
CO: 28.99 BB (VPIP: 14.55, PFR: 7.41, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 55)
Hero (BTN): 43.16 BB
SB: 27.41 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 38)
BB: 74.22 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
UTG: 31.01 BB (VPIP: 26.67, PFR: 17.78, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 46)
UTG+1: 36.17 BB (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
MP: 37.98 BB (VPIP: 34.78, PFR: 13.04, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)

8 players post ante of 0.15 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.72 BB) Hero has Qc Qh
fold, fold, MP raises to 2.3 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 5.87 BB, fold, fold, MP raises to 13.56 BB, Hero calls 7.69 BB

Flop : (29.83 BB, 2 players) 7s 9h 5c
MP bets 24.27 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 24.27 BB

Turn : (78.37 BB, 2 players) Ad

River : (78.37 BB, 2 players) 4h

MP shows Kd Kc (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 82%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)

Hero shows Qc Qh (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 18%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)

MP wins 78.37 BB

Thoughts ?
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08-17-2017 , 02:02 PM
yeah you can't really fold on that flop tbh.

vil could have TT and JJ as well as AA and KK
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08-17-2017 , 02:23 PM
It's tough because 4-bets just aren't very common in low stakes tourneys (I'm assuming this is low stakes), so his range is going to be so heavily weighted towards AA/KK. You almost hope to see an A/K on the flop so you can get away from it. But you can't fold QQ pre, and with 37bb effective you can't really fold on a low flop either. Sometimes you're just stuck and can't avoid losing your chips.

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08-17-2017 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Darth_Maul
It's tough because 4-bets just aren't very common in low stakes tourneys (I'm assuming this is low stakes), so his range is going to be so heavily weighted towards AA/KK. You almost hope to see an A/K on the flop so you can get away from it. But you can't fold QQ pre, and with 37bb effective you can't really fold on a low flop either. Sometimes you're just stuck and can't avoid losing your chips.

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This was a bounty tourney too and I had biggest bounty on my head by a long way, this made me think he would shove TT and JJ just as much as KK or AA. Sometimes it just has to go in

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08-17-2017 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SanchezDaKid
This was a bounty tourney too and I had biggest bounty on my head by a long way, this made me think he would shove TT and JJ just as much as KK or AA. Sometimes it just has to go in

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Although you are the bigger stack so he's not getting your bounty

If you know this player well you just might have been able to read the small 4 bet as KK+ but there are players doing this to try to look strong, so I think it's got to go in.

I'd rather just gii pre as I think initiative is more important than position with SPR this low

What are you going to do when he shoves on a K high flop?
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08-17-2017 , 04:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by oldgoat
Although you are the bigger stack so he's not getting your bounty

If you know this player well you just might have been able to read the small 4 bet as KK+ but there are players doing this to try to look strong, so I think it's got to go in.

I'd rather just gii pre as I think initiative is more important than position with SPR this low

What are you going to do when he shoves on a K high flop?
Fold most likely, AK then also becomes a reasonable hand for him

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08-17-2017 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SanchezDaKid
Fold most likely, AK then also becomes a reasonable hand for him

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But the point is that he could well be shoving JJ - I'd rather realize our equity by gii pre
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08-17-2017 , 05:59 PM
Its not really a small 4b tho. Hand is normal/standard.

If people's 4b range is bladed to shortened combos then just 3b the bottoms of yoyr flatting range more and some blocker stuff ie A2s etc.
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08-17-2017 , 07:44 PM
seems std

vs nits can deffo fold QQ,AK to cold 4b pre under the right conditions
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