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02-21-2017 , 02:30 AM
I used to be active on this forum and have recently found some time again to get back into my favorite hobby... I'm a little rusty though so some help from the 2p2 bros and sistahs would be great!

Merge - <2.20 NIGHTLY 750 GTD> NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BB: 25.02 BB (VPIP: 31.25, PFR: 19.05, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 49)
UTG: 3.5 BB (VPIP: 23.53, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
UTG+1: 11.97 BB (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 6.25, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
MP: 0.75 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 7.29, 3Bet Preflop: 3.33, Hands: 99)
MP+1: 22.93 BB (VPIP: 34.62, PFR: 26.92, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 27)
CO: 32.12 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 5.88, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
BTN: 1.09 BB (VPIP: 20.48, PFR: 14.41, 3Bet Preflop: 7.78, Hands: 251)
Hero (SB): 25.26 BB

8 players post ante of 0.1 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.3 BB) Hero has Qs Qc
fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 0.5 BB, BB checks

Flop : (2.8 BB, 2 players) 8c 8h 3d
Hero bets 1 BB, BB calls 1 BB

Turn : (4.8 BB, 2 players) Th
Hero bets 2.4 BB, BB calls 2.4 BB

River : (9.6 BB, 2 players) Td
Hero ?

2nd hand of the final two tables reallocation ... We're both top five if not the two chip leaders ...

Advice on all streets please. Thank you.
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02-21-2017 , 03:12 AM
unless you've seen him be aggressive bvb I think a raise is best.

In these situations I tend to play more passively vs aggressive and not get attached to my hand. I'd rather bet out a flop like j 8 3 or a 2 2 10. Here I may just go into check call mode depending on the villains bet size. But I don't hate leading. I think I may check call turn and re-evaluate river. Might call river bet depending on size and card.

Again, I'm really not trying to get max value out of these situations, and am definitely folding if faced with large betting or multiple bets.
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02-21-2017 , 04:19 AM
I don't think you should be looking to get three streets of value, so I would either check flop or check turn.

As played it's tough to get value on the river here - I doubt he'd be calling three times with A-high or a lower pp so I'd check. Then he'll either try to bluff if he was floating light (unlikely), check back hands with sdv or bet for value with 8 or T. So it's a x/f to me unless he makes it really small.


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02-22-2017 , 05:02 AM
What do you all think of the bvb balanced pre limp?
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02-22-2017 , 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by nonsimplesimon
What do you all think of the bvb balanced pre limp?


I usually play a limp everything strategy from the SB.
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02-23-2017 , 08:09 AM
Hay NSS! Welcome back bro

I very rarely limp in the sb, because of this exact reason, very hard to balance and you put yourself in spots to get owned postflop oop. I usually raise or walk.

I think we need a strong lag read to warrant a limp here.

As played, i think this is an excellent flop to check and see if he wants to take the betting lead, if he does im pretty prepared to call down x3 streets vs guy that has 31 vpip over decent sample
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02-23-2017 , 10:24 AM
sb strat is actually a quite complex issue so it basically depends a bit on what you are doing with other parts of your range. to say limping QQ in this spot is "right" or "wrong" doesn't make much sense tbh. as played id def start with a check otr, however i think betting flop + turn is probably inferior to starting with a x/c otf.
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02-23-2017 , 05:01 PM
I like a small b/f OTR
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02-23-2017 , 11:59 PM
Alot of pros are starting to limp their entire range from the SB here now. My coach has had me doing that recently. There is a limp/fold, limp/call and limp/raise range. The reason is two-fold, it allows you to play many more hands than a raise/fold strategy, and if you are going to limp to play many more hands, it protects your limp to limp the top of the range to have a limp/raise range.

However, this is to combat a strong player in the BB. If the BB is not strong, I may forego balance and just exploit his errors. If he's letting me see flops, I will have a limp range while still raising the top of my range.
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02-24-2017 , 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by wowsooooted
Hay NSS! Welcome back bro

I very rarely limp in the sb, because of this exact reason, very hard to balance and you put yourself in spots to get owned postflop oop. I usually raise or walk.

I think we need a strong lag read to warrant a limp here.

As played, i think this is an excellent flop to check and see if he wants to take the betting lead, if he does im pretty prepared to call down x3 streets vs guy that has 31 vpip over decent sample
thanks for the shout out brother! : )
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